Chemistry help- anyone explaine 'the mole'

acidvoodoo

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so basiclly i'm writing up a HS experiement we did, investigating the rate of reaction between magnesium and hydrochloric acid, and this will cont towards 20% of my HS chemistry grade.

so anyway, to throw in a bit of extra to get full marks, i am trying to write about the mole of the acid, in the planning section. just a quick brief of what i did:

started with 24ml of acid in a cronical flask, added magnesium strip, plugged in the delivery tube, and timed for one minute, seeing how much hydrogen gas was showed to be produced in the gas syringe when the time was up. i then added 2 ml water and took away 2ml acid, and did it again and again

so i'll just tryin to say abit about the mole of the acid. i know that the 24ml=1mol/dm'3, but not sure what else to say, as my chemistry book was kinda confusing
 

GoodToGo

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Mole of a substance contains 6.203*10^23 atoms of the substance. Thus 11 grams of sodium is one mole and 16 grams of oxygen(not eight since it oxygen exists as O2 and not just O) is one mole. In your experiement, you can show the balance of the molar masses and show that mass in conserved.

Mg + 2HCl = MgCl2 + H2
 

ChefJoe

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HEh.. cronical flask sounds like a Dr. Dre tune.


1 mole in chemistry = 6.02*10^23 particles/descrete molecules/chemical formula units (in the case of solids).
 

AnthraX101

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He is talking about the molarity of a substance.

If your acid concentration is, say, one molar HCl, that means in X amount of substance, you have Y moles of HCl. That data should be given to you at the begining of the experiment. Generaly, if its something that doesn't specify the quanity of solvent, it means liter of solvent per mole of solute. IE:

You have one liter of one molar HCl. You therefore have one mol of HCl in that mixture.

You have three liters of five molar H2SO4. Then, you have 15 mol of H2SO4.

Now, when mixing think of it this way:

You have two liters of three molar HNO3. Therefore, you have six mols of HNO3. Mix in one liter of water. Now, your mixture has a volume of three liters, with the same amount of HNO3 (you didn't add any). Then, just take the number of mols devided by the volume. Therefore, you would now have a 2 molar acid.

Get it?

AnthraX101
 

guyver01

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Chemistry & Environmental Dictionary - Molality - MWC

Molality: is the number of moles of solute dissolved in one kilogram of solvent. Note: be careful not to confuse molality and molarity. Molality is represented by a small "m," whereas molarity is represented by an upper case "M."




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Molarity: the number of moles of a solute dissolved in a liter of solvent. Note: be careful not to confuse molality and molarity. Molality is represented by a small "m," whereas molarity is represented by an upper case "M."




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Molar Mass: is a unit that enables scientists to calculate the weight of any chemical substance, be it an element or a compound. Molar mass is the sum of all of the atomic masses in a formula. More information and molar mass calculator.




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Mole (mol): is the basic unit of measurement in chemistry. By definition, in modern chemistry, one mole represents the number of carbon atoms in exactly 12 grams of carbon 12 (C12).

 

guyver01

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The quantitative relationship between chemical substances in a reaction is known as stoichiometry. Avogadro was a pioneer in this field of chemistry. Avogadro hypothesized that there was a specific number that would represent the number of atoms or molecules in a mole of that atom or molecule. The weight of that unit known as a mole would be equivalent to the atomic or molecular weight of the atom or molecule in grams. According to this theory, one mole of carbon-12 would have a mass of 12 grams because carbon-12 has an atomic weight of 12 (6 neutrons and 6 protons). One mole of hydrogen would weigh one gram and would contain the same number of atoms as one mole of carbon. The magical number was, in fact, discovered to be 6.024E23. It was named the Avogadro Number in honor of the father of stoichiometry even though he did not actually determine the exact number. The modern definition of a mole is as follows:

Exactly one mole represents the number of carbon atoms in exactly 12 grams of the carbon-12 isotope.

For an atom a mole represents 6.02E23 atoms. For a molecular compound, one mole represents 6.02E23 molecules. One could even take it to extremes and say that one mole of bananas is equal to 6.02E23 bananas.

Now you might ask, "what relevance does the Avogadro number have for me?" The answer is, just about everything when you are working in a chemistry lab. On the other hand, it is totally useless as a unit of measure for bananas.

One atom or even ten atoms are too small for an individual to measure out in a lab. A mole of a substance equals the gram-formula mass or the gram-molar mass. This equals the sum of all of the masses of all the elements in the formula of the substance. Basically, if one were to count all of the carbon atoms in one one mole of carbon-12, there would be 6.02E23 atoms and it would weigh 12 grams (remember the atomic weight of carbon is 12).

Using the information above, it is possible to calculate concentrations of solutions and make up solutions of desired concentration. It is also possible to use this information to determine how much of a given base would be needed in order to neutralize a specific acid and reach a pH of 7.

There are five units of concentration that are particularly useful to chemists. The first three: molality, molarity and normality are dependant upon the mole unit. The last two: percent by volume and percent by weight have nothing to do with mole, only weight or volume of the solute or substance to be diluted, versus the weight or volume of the solvent or substance in which the solute is diluted. Percentages can also be determined for solids within solids.

Molality: The molal unit is not used nearly as frequently as the molar unit. A molality is the number of moles of solute dissolved in one kilogram of solvent. Be careful not to confuse molality and molarity. Molality is represented by a small "m," whereas molarity is represented by an upper case "M." Note that the solvent must be weighed unless it is water. One liter of water has a specific gravity of 1.0 and weighs one kilogram; so one can measure out one liter of water and add the solute to it. Most other solvents have a specific gravity greater than or less than one. Therefore, one liter of anything other than water is not likely to occupy a liter of space. To make a one molal aqueous (water) solution of sodium chloride (NaCl) , measure out one kilogram of water and add one mole of the solute, NaCl to it. The atomic weight of sodium is 23 and the atomic weight of chlorine is 35. Therefore the formula weight for NaCl is 58, and 58 grams of NaCl dissolved in 1kg water would result in a 1 molal solution of NaCl.

Molarity: The molar unit is probably the most commonly used chemical unit of measurement. Molarity is the number of moles of a solute dissolved in a liter of solvent. A molar solution of sodium chloride is made by placing 1 mole of a solute into a 1-liter volumetric flask. (Taking data from the example above we will use 58 grams of sodium chloride). Water is then added to the volumetric flask up to the one liter line. The result is a one molar solution of sodium chloride.

Normality: There is a relationship between normality and molarity. Normality can only be calculated when we deal with reactions, because normality is a function of equivalents.

The example below uses potassium hydroxide (KOH) to neutralize arsenic acid. By studying the reaction it is possible to determine the proton exchange number to determine the normality of the arsenic acid.

Look at the equation H3AsO4 + 2KOH --> K2AsO4 + 2H2O:

Equivalent weight = molar mass/(H+ per mole)

Equivalent = mass of compound / Equivalent weight

And Normality = (equivalents of X)/Liter

And the part that is of interest to you is that Normality = molarity x n (where n = the number of protons exchanged in a reaction).

You probably remember that when a hydrogen atom is ionized and loses its electron, you are left with only a proton. So a hydrogen ion is basically a proton.

Let's assume that we have a 0.25 M solution of H3AsO4 and want to determine the normality of it if it participates in the reaction

H3AsO4 + 2KOH --> K2AsO4 + 2H2O

When H3AsO4 is neutralized by KOH, H3AsO4 provides two protons to form 2H2O.

Note that H3AsO4 has three hydrogens, but K2AsO4 only has one hydrogen. That means that 2 protons were exchanged,

Again normality = molarity * n

Remember that normality of the solution is 0.025 mol H3AsO4 and there were two protons exchanged (2 equivalents/mole)



So, in short, while there is a relationship between the normality of a solution and the molarity of a solution, the normality can only be determined by examining reaction, determining the proton exchange and multiplying molarity by that number.

Normality is particularly useful in titrations calculations.


Where N = normality, V = volume, a = the substance on the left of the equation involved in proton exchange, and b=substance on the right of the equation involved in proton exchange:

NaVa = NbVb
Percentages are easy to calculate because they do not require information about the chemical nature of the substance. Percentages can be determined as percent by weight or percent by volume.

Percent by weight: To make up a solution based on percentage by weight, one would simply determine what percentage was desired (for example, a 20% by weight aqueous solution of sodium chloride) and the total quantity to be prepared.


If the total quantity needed is 1 kg, then it would simply be a matter of calculating 20% of 1 kg which, of course is:

0.20 NaCl * 1000 g/kg = 200 g NaCl/kg.
In order to bring the total quantity to 1 kg, it would be necessary to add 800g water.

Percent by volume: Solutions based on percent by volume are calculated the same as for percent by weight, except that calculations are based on volume. Thus one would simply determine what percentage was desired (for example, a 20% by volume aqueous solution of sodium chloride) and the total quantity to be prepared.


If the total quantity needed is 1 liter, then it would simply be a matter of calculating 20% of 1 liter which, of course is:

0.20 NaCl * 1000 ml/l = 200 ml NaCl/l.
Percentages are used more in the technological fields of chemistry (such as environmental technologies) than they are in pure chemistry.

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NakaNaka

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Originally posted by: GoodToGo
Mole of a substance contains 6.203*10^23 atoms of the substance. Thus 11 grams of sodium is one mole and 16 grams of oxygen(not eight since it oxygen exists as O2 and not just O) is one mole. In your experiement, you can show the balance of the molar masses and show that mass in conserved.

Mg + 2HCl = MgCl2 + H2

You sure? I thought it was 6.02x10^23.
 

AnthraX101

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Originally posted by: NakaNaka
Originally posted by: GoodToGo
Mole of a substance contains 6.203*10^23 atoms of the substance. Thus 11 grams of sodium is one mole and 16 grams of oxygen(not eight since it oxygen exists as O2 and not just O) is one mole. In your experiement, you can show the balance of the molar masses and show that mass in conserved.

Mg + 2HCl = MgCl2 + H2

You sure? I thought it was 6.02x10^23.

We have a winner! 6.02*10^23.

AnthraX101
 

guyver01

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Originally posted by: NakaNaka
You sure? I thought it was 6.02x10^23.

it is..

One mole of hydrogen would weigh one gram and would contain the same number of atoms as one mole of carbon. The magical number was, in fact, discovered to be 6.024E23. It was named the Avogadro Number in honor of the father of stoichiometry even though he did not actually determine the exact number.


For an atom a mole represents 6.02E23 atoms. For a molecular compound, one mole represents 6.02E23 molecules. One could even take it to extremes and say that one mole of bananas is equal to 6.02E23 bananas.



 

McPhreak

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I think most of you guys are answering his question correctly. The problem is, I think he's asking the wrong question. Anthrax 101 is correct in that he should be asking about the molarity of the acid, and not the number of moles in the acid.
 

acidvoodoo

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:eek::disgust::Q:confused::(

i understand (most) of this, but am confused as to how to impliment it into my experiment

i was told by someone in another chemistry class, that is doin the same experiment, that the 24ml acid i used was 1 mole (my class wasn't told to do anything about molarity, but i am anyway (i hope))

so, as i diluted the acid by 2ml at a time, does this mean that i am correct in sayin the molarity of 22ml HCl and 2ml water is 0.92?

EDIT: forgot to say that this experiment is investigating the way concentration effects the reate of reaction, if that helps

(ye my question may be wrong)
 

McPhreak

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Originally posted by: acidvoodoo
:eek::disgust::Q:confused::(

i understand (most) of this, but am confused as to how to impliment it into my experiment

i was told by someone in another chemistry class, that is doin the same experiment, that the 24ml acid i used was 1 mole (my class wasn't told to do anything about molarity, but i am anyway (i hope))

so, as i diluted the acid by 2ml at a time, does this mean that i am correct in sayin the molarity of 22ml HCl and 2ml water is 0.92?

EDIT: forgot to say that this experiment is investigating the way concentration effects the reate of reaction, if that helps

(ye my question may be wrong)


Sort of. I think you could have tweaked your experiment a little. Just remember that adding 2mL H20 and then removing 2mL of the subsequent acid does not equal removing 2mL of acid and adding 2mL H20 afterward. I would have removed the acid before adding the water. But it should still be ok the way you did it. Just makes for a little different calculation. It may not seem like a substantial figure right now, but as you keep diluting, those numbers will continue to diverge.

Remove acid--->Add water
24mL of 1M HCl - 2mL 1M HCl = 22mL 1M HCl
add 2mL H20 = ~0.9167M HCl

Add water--->Remove acid
24mL of 1M HCl + 2mL H20 = ~0.9231M HCl
remove 2mL of acid = ~0.9231M HCl
 

acidvoodoo

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lol yea, sorry i sed it wrong. i actually did do what u sed, measureed the 22ml of acid, in one test tube, then poured 2ml of water into it. sorry for my bad wording


edit:water
 

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You've heard of a mole, a millimole and a micromole, right?

Do you know what a guacamole is?


That's right,



Avocado's number!
 

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Originally posted by: Sciolist
You've heard of a mole, a millimole and a micromole, right?

Do you know what a guacamole is?


That's right,



Avocado's number!

that's so corny :p

:)
 

McPhreak

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Originally posted by: Sciolist
You've heard of a mole, a millimole and a micromole, right?

Do you know what a guacamole is?


That's right,



Avocado's number!

You deserve a permanent ban for that one.

;)