Chemical Weapons in Syria

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iGas

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That is a LIE, the "rebels/freedom fighters" are supported and back by the West...they can't be terrarists that use WMD on the Syrian government/populous.

The civil war began with anti-government protests in March 2011. The conflict has now claimed an estimated 70,000 lives and forced 1.2 million Syrian refugees to flee.
The United States has said it has "varying degrees of confidence" that sarin has been used by Syria's government on its people.
President Barack Obama last year declared that the use or deployment of chemical weapons by Assad would cross a "red line".
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But it seems as if it is perfectly acceptable for the "rebels" to use chemical weapons, because they are "friends" of the West.

And it is perfectly acceptable for US ally to bomb another sovereignty unprovoked.
 
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Nebor

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Who gives a shit? Two groups of people that hate us are killing one another for free. It's the very definition of a win-win.
 
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jackschmittusa

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iGas

How about one rival faction that wishes ill will toward another using them. Weaken the guys you don't like and try to provoke a U.S. military response at the same time. A win/win for for a "bad guy" rebel faction.

Do you have the resources to prove this scenario false?
 
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iGas

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jackschmittusa said:
iGas

How about one rival faction that wishes ill will toward another using them. Weaken the guys you don't like and try to provoke a U.S. military response at the same time. A win/win for for a "bad guy" rebel faction.

Do you have the resources to prove this scenario false?
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Perhaps you are right. And, we might get a better picture as the event unfold.
 
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Nintendesert

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Nebor said:
Who gives a shit? Two groups of people that hate us are killing one another for free. It's the very definition of a win-win.
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No shit. I don't understand why we're not cheering in the streets over this one. Just stay the fuck out and we win. Why are so many banging on the war drums? :confused:
 
Orignal Earl

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Genx87 said:
And these are the people Obama is planning to send weapons too?
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I imagine the US and Israel would much rather deal with a couple of rag tag Al-Qaeda groups in charge of Syria
Those groups are nothing compared to the threat Assad or Hezbollah is to Israel
 
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Genx87

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Orignal Earl said:
I imagine the US and Israel would much rather deal with a couple of rag tag Al-Qaeda groups in charge of Syria
Those groups are nothing compared to the threat Assad or Hezbollah is to Israel
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You are kidding right? AQ in charge of the worlds largest stockpiles of chemical weapons? I can see nothing bad coming from that. /sarcasm
 
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Genx87 said:
You are kidding right? AQ in charge of the worlds largest stockpiles of chemical weapons? I can see nothing bad coming from that. /sarcasm
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Only if you think AQ is some monolithic group with a central control.
Which it is not.
How much grief has AQ given Israel compared to the Assads and Hez
 
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Orignal Earl said:
Only if you think AQ is some monolithic group with a central control.
Which it is not.
How much grief has AQ given Israel compared to the Assads and Hez
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Would love to see your sources.

On second thought, its probably best I not know. Plausible deniability and all. :ninja:
 
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Orignal Earl said:
Only if you think AQ is some monolithic group with a central control.
Which it is not.
How much grief has AQ given Israel compared to the Assads and Hez
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Central control of weapons of mass destruction is specifically what keeps them from being used. :rolleyes:
 
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Nintendesert said:
Central control of weapons of mass destruction is specifically what keeps them from being used. :rolleyes:
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Your comment and my quote have nothing to do with each other?

Do you think I'm somehow arguing that no one used chemical weapons in Syria?

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I'm leaning that the rebels used it to try and make it look like Assad did it
 
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Orignal Earl said:
Only if you think AQ is some monolithic group with a central control.
Which it is not.
How much grief has AQ given Israel compared to the Assads and Hez
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What, is there a peaceful faction of AQ we dont know about? The opposition in Syria sounds very religious and fanatical. I dont think arming to take control of the worlds largest stockpile of chemical weapons is a wise idea.
 
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Orignal Earl said:
My sources on what?
When has AQ attacked Israel?
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Your sources on AQ in general. You seem to know so much about them, or at least you think you do.

There is a notion of certainty in everything you have been saying related to AQ.

/tinfoil
 
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Harabec

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No. A governing body with responsibility is MUCH easier to deal with than unrelated terrorists.
If anything, it is in our (Israel's, I don't speak for the US) interest that Assad actually stays in power.
You can make an analogy to Pakistan. It has nukes. Would you like its government to dissolve and its nukes stolen by those idiotic barbaric tribes and "not very nice" organizations?
 
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Genx87 said:
What, is there a peaceful faction of AQ we dont know about? The opposition in Syria sounds very religious and fanatical. I dont think arming to take control of the worlds largest stockpile of chemical weapons is a wise idea.
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From what I have read, the rebels consist of several fractured groups
If Assad goes down, we would have decades of those groups fighting among themselves to gain leadership. edit- see Iraq
If Assad comes out on top, we don't have to worry about chem weapons as much, but Israel has to put up with Assads shit as they have been
 
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Orignal Earl

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xBiffx said:
Your sources on AQ in general. You seem to know so much about them, or at least you think you do.

There is a notion of certainty in everything you have been saying related to AQ.

/tinfoil
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I do lots of reading on wiki and reddit.
Only a kook would start to think I'm a part of AQ
Best wrap that foil a little tighter
 
Orignal Earl

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Two guys from some Jhihad clan just started playing in my game.
They have Arabic nics too.
I'm going to join their squad and see if I can get any info
 
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Orignal Earl said:
Your comment and my quote have nothing to do with each other?

Do you think I'm somehow arguing that no one used chemical weapons in Syria?

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I'm leaning that the rebels used it to try and make it look like Assad did it
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I imagine the US and Israel would much rather deal with a couple of rag tag Al-Qaeda groups in charge of Syria
Those groups are nothing compared to the threat Assad or Hezbollah is to Israel
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Do I need to quote everything you type out because you're incapable of even remember the horseshit you post in the same thread? o_O
 
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