Checking citizenship status of a person

Kroze

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Does anyone know of any government web site that give you the ability to check someone's citizenship/residency status just by inputting their ssn ?
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: Kroze
Does anyone know of any government web site that give you the ability to check someone's citizenship/residency status just by inputting their ssn ?

No. Go ahead and move back to East Germany where you can ask people for their papers.
 

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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: Kroze
Does anyone know of any government web site that give you the ability to check someone's citizenship/residency status just by inputting their ssn ?

No. Go ahead and move back to East Germany where you can ask people for their papers.
haha

 

Kroze

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I thought that there was such a thing because in respond to the illegal immigration issue, the gov't created a specific web site for employers to go on and check just by inputting the provided ssn.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Kroze
Does anyone know of any government web site that give you the ability to check someone's citizenship/residency status just by inputting their ssn ?

Not that would be accessible by the general public. I'm not so sure there shouldn't be however...in this day of the illegal immigration invasion, the citizens on the front line need all the weapons we can get to fight off the unwashed hordes...;)
 

FoBoT

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E-Verify
DHS provides this website for employers

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www.vis-dhs.com/EmployerRegistration/StartPage.aspx?JS=YES">https://www.vis-dhs.com/Emp......rtPage.aspx?JS=YES</a>

The E-Verify program, formerly known as Basic Pilot or the Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS), is jointly administered by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) through United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and the Social Security Administration (SSA). This program allows participating employers to verify whether newly hired employees are authorized to work in the United States by checking the information provided by the employees on their Form I-9 against both DHS and SSA databases. Participation in E-Verify is currently free to employers.
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: Kroze
I thought that there was such a thing because in respond to the illegal immigration issue, the gov't created a specific web site for employers to go on and check just by inputting the provided ssn.

If you're an employer posting SSN's to a public forum as it looks like you just did, congrats, you just seriously mishandled someone's sensitive personal data.

If you're a random asshole posting someone else's SSN, well, you're still an asshole.

Either way, get rid of it.
 

FoBoT

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an SSN without a name is meaningless, i know everyones SSN, it is between 000-00-000 and 999-99-9999

just a name or just an SSN doesn't give you enough, you need both together
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
an SSN without a name is meaningless, i know everyones SSN, it is between 000-00-000 and 999-99-9999

just a name or just an SSN doesn't give you enough, you need both together

While obvious (and correct), its still not cool. It'd be a lot easier to get a hold of someone's name than social, and probably a lot easier to get their name already having the SSN rather than vice-versa.

Otherwise why don't we all just register with our SSN and post using that? Harmless, right?
 

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Originally posted by: sjwaste
Originally posted by: FoBoT
an SSN without a name is meaningless, i know everyones SSN, it is between 000-00-000 and 999-99-9999

just a name or just an SSN doesn't give you enough, you need both together

While obvious (and correct), its still not cool. It'd be a lot easier to get a hold of someone's name than social, and probably a lot easier to get their name already having the SSN rather than vice-versa.

Otherwise why don't we all just register with our SSN and post using that? Harmless, right?

Because not everyone that is on this site is from the US.
 

Kroze

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
E-Verify
DHS provides this website for employers

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www.vis-dhs.com/Employ.../StartPage.aspx?JS=YES"><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://www.vis-dhs.com/EmployerRegistration/StartPage.aspx?JS=YES">https://www.vis-dhs.com/.........ge.aspx?JS=YES</a></a>

The E-Verify program, formerly known as Basic Pilot or the Employment Eligibility Verification System (EEVS), is jointly administered by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) through United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) and the Social Security Administration (SSA). This program allows participating employers to verify whether newly hired employees are authorized to work in the United States by checking the information provided by the employees on their Form I-9 against both DHS and SSA databases. Participation in E-Verify is currently free to employers.

thanks
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Kroze
No ssn start with 9.

i know that, i was using a simple example, the rules for handing out SSN's is well documented
if you know where and when a person got their SSN , you can narrow it down quite a bit from the whole set, especially if it is an older number. the newer rules make it harder to shrink the pool
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Kroze
No ssn start with 9.

i know that, i was using a simple example, the rules for handing out SSN's is well documented
if you know where and when a person got their SSN , you can narrow it down quite a bit from the whole set, especially if it is an older number. the newer rules make it harder to shrink the pool

When I process a loan for someone I have to ability to verify that the social security number is real and who it belongs to. I actually had a Mexican give me a SSN that began with a 9. He didn't get the loan. :)

 

Kroze

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Kroze
No ssn start with 9.

i know that, i was using a simple example, the rules for handing out SSN's is well documented
if you know where and when a person got their SSN , you can narrow it down quite a bit from the whole set, especially if it is an older number. the newer rules make it harder to shrink the pool

When I process a loan for someone I have to ability to verify that the social security number is real and who it belongs to. I actually had a Mexican give me a SSN that began with a 9. He didn't get the loan. :)

Say he's not a us citizen but claimed that he is, there's no way for you to know other than to ask for proof of it. but then that would be discrimination now wouldn't it. You're pretty much forced to give him the loan...
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: Kroze
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Kroze
No ssn start with 9.

i know that, i was using a simple example, the rules for handing out SSN's is well documented
if you know where and when a person got their SSN , you can narrow it down quite a bit from the whole set, especially if it is an older number. the newer rules make it harder to shrink the pool

When I process a loan for someone I have to ability to verify that the social security number is real and who it belongs to. I actually had a Mexican give me a SSN that began with a 9. He didn't get the loan. :)

Say he's not a us citizen but claimed that he is, there's no way for you to know other than to ask for proof of it. but then that would be discrimination now wouldn't it. You're pretty much forced to give him the loan...

Whether or not he was a citizen was of no consequence to the loan decision. The fact was, he had no legitimate SSN, hence the declined application.

 

Casawi

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No you will not be able to know just from the social security number. Most people will use their passport to proof citizenships.