check out this article on usatoday.com about RIAA

[beatniks3]

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Why can't the record companies just admit that people don't buy the albums anymore because they can download it first and come to the conclusion that the cd is not worth the money. what else can i do as a consumer with my high-speed internet to justify paying what i do each month for it....i'm being completely serious, isn't downloading songs advertised as part of the whole high-speed consumer experience? CDs get scratched, cases break, and the price inflation that the record compaines get away with is mind-boggling....

Go silently into the night RIAA, and all table-scrap artists in its shadow....and stop sueing college age kids. pick on someone your own size.

"If industry efforts fail, the fallout will hurt more than the bean counters and stockholders. A crippled system would send ripples through myriad businesses and pop culture itself. A marketplace built around a physical artifact ? the silver disc inside a shrink-wrapped jewel box ? would shrivel."

Ohhh, I am so scared!!!! A society moving beyond the physical artifict. The horrors. But things get worse:

"Hetfield chimes in, "What about the band that's on the cusp of make it or break it? It's so ironic that a band won't be successful because the people who really like their stuff are stealing it." "

So basically the band will be unsuccessful because of their popularity? THAT is irony. To the RIAA the world is flat, no updating them, let's just leave them behind....

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: beatniks3
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Why can't the record companies just admit that people don't buy the albums anymore because they can download it first and come to the conclusion that the cd is not worth the money. what else can i do as a consumer with my high-speed internet to justify paying what i do each month for it....i'm being completely serious, isn't downloading songs advertised as part of the whole high-speed consumer experience? CDs get scratched, cases break, and the price inflation that the record compaines get away with is mind-boggling....

Go silently into the night RIAA, and all table-scrap artists in its shadow....and stop sueing college age kids. pick on someone your own size.

"If industry efforts fail, the fallout will hurt more than the bean counters and stockholders. A crippled system would send ripples through myriad businesses and pop culture itself. A marketplace built around a physical artifact ? the silver disc inside a shrink-wrapped jewel box ? would shrivel."

Ohhh, I am so scared!!!! A society moving beyond the physical artifict. The horrors. But things get worse:

"Hetfield chimes in, "What about the band that's on the cusp of make it or break it? It's so ironic that a band won't be successful because the people who really like their stuff are stealing it." "

So basically the band will be unsuccessful because of their popularity? THAT is irony. To the RIAA the world is flat, no updating them, let's just leave them behind....

*yawn*

Another person trying to justify stealing..

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: beatniks3
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Why can't the record companies just admit that people don't buy the albums anymore because they can download it first and come to the conclusion that the cd is not worth the money. what else can i do as a consumer with my high-speed internet to justify paying what i do each month for it....i'm being completely serious, isn't downloading songs advertised as part of the whole high-speed consumer experience? CDs get scratched, cases break, and the price inflation that the record compaines get away with is mind-boggling....

Go silently into the night RIAA, and all table-scrap artists in its shadow....and stop sueing college age kids. pick on someone your own size.

"If industry efforts fail, the fallout will hurt more than the bean counters and stockholders. A crippled system would send ripples through myriad businesses and pop culture itself. A marketplace built around a physical artifact ? the silver disc inside a shrink-wrapped jewel box ? would shrivel."

Ohhh, I am so scared!!!! A society moving beyond the physical artifict. The horrors. But things get worse:

"Hetfield chimes in, "What about the band that's on the cusp of make it or break it? It's so ironic that a band won't be successful because the people who really like their stuff are stealing it." "

So basically the band will be unsuccessful because of their popularity? THAT is irony. To the RIAA the world is flat, no updating them, let's just leave them behind....

*yawn*

Another person trying to justify stealing..

Copyright infringement perhaps but definitely not stealing unless he goes into a music store and leaves with a CD he didn't pay for in his pocket.

 

[jjones]

If piracy spreads unabated, the very culprits stand to suffer losses as well.

"The industry would not be able to produce and market the number of new artists it's offered historically," RIAA president Cary Sherman says. "It would mean far less investment in music. Record companies make money by selling music. There are very few other revenue streams available. If they can't sell music because people are downloading or burning it for free, they'll take fewer risks on fewer artists.

"If it weren't for Norah Jones having a record contract, her music would still be enjoyed by a few people in Texas at clubs. EMI invested in her and marketed her music, and now it's enjoyed by people all over the world. We have one of the most rich and vibrant cultures in the world, and it would be criminal if all of that disappeared, or contracted, because of uncontrolled Internet piracy."

Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich, branded as greedy by some fans for his criticism of online thievery, says the band fought for principles, not profit.

"It's not the Metallicas and Madonnas and Linkin Parks and Bruce Springsteens that take the hardest hit, it's the 10 developing bands each label has on its roster every month," Ulrich says. "That gets trimmed to three. Instead of getting $1 million to make videos and tour, you go home if nothing happens in the first five minutes of that project. Young artists won't have a chance."

Hetfield chimes in, "What about the band that's on the cusp of make it or break it? It's so ironic that a band won't be successful because the people who really like their stuff are stealing it."

Complete bullshyt. When real online music services become a reality, the artists will be getting their royalties from downloads, not from CD sales. Maybe several new or independent labels with enough savvy to embrace the online technology will be developing new artists to feed these new services; new breaking artists will have a chance for even greater exposure. Personally, I'd like to see all of the old labels along with the RIAA go into the dustbin of history.

 

[dabuddha]

Hell, most new bands/small time bands want to have their music traded on the net. It gives them more exposure.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: beatniks3
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Why can't the record companies just admit that people don't buy the albums anymore because they can download it first and come to the conclusion that the cd is not worth the money. what else can i do as a consumer with my high-speed internet to justify paying what i do each month for it....i'm being completely serious, isn't downloading songs advertised as part of the whole high-speed consumer experience? CDs get scratched, cases break, and the price inflation that the record compaines get away with is mind-boggling....

Go silently into the night RIAA, and all table-scrap artists in its shadow....and stop sueing college age kids. pick on someone your own size.

"If industry efforts fail, the fallout will hurt more than the bean counters and stockholders. A crippled system would send ripples through myriad businesses and pop culture itself. A marketplace built around a physical artifact ? the silver disc inside a shrink-wrapped jewel box ? would shrivel."

Ohhh, I am so scared!!!! A society moving beyond the physical artifict. The horrors. But things get worse:

"Hetfield chimes in, "What about the band that's on the cusp of make it or break it? It's so ironic that a band won't be successful because the people who really like their stuff are stealing it." "

So basically the band will be unsuccessful because of their popularity? THAT is irony. To the RIAA the world is flat, no updating them, let's just leave them behind....

heheh hetfield is a moron... a band like metallica, which didn't have any popular play of its first 3 albums, would never make it in today's calculated-blockbuster music industry. and the people who really like their stuff are buying their albums and going to their concerts. since metallica owns the copyright to their music they don't know what its like for the average artist who gets shafted on royalties from album sales when they sign over their rights

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: jjones
Complete bullshyt. When real online music services become a reality, the artists will be getting their royalties from downloads, not from CD sales. Maybe several new or independent labels with enough savvy to embrace the online technology will be developing new artists to feed these new services; new breaking artists will have a chance for even greater exposure. Personally, I'd like to see all of the old labels along with the RIAA go into the dustbin of history.

an independent distribution system is still going to have a hard time because the only easy way to generate a large buzz is to get songs played on the radio.

 

[Tom]

"Why can't the record companies just admit that people don't buy the albums anymore because they can download it first and come to the conclusion that the cd is not worth the money."

Your opening sentence is a false premise. People are not downloading music to try it out, they download it instead of buying it. There have always been ways to "try out" music, listening to the radio, tv shows, concerts, which would lead to a percentage of those people buying the product. The current situation with file-sharing is the quality and the ease of sharing mp3s has led to way too many people using file-sharing to avoid buying music they otherwise would buy.

Maybe everyone isn't using file-sharing this way but a lot of people are. Enough that it will seriously reduce the amount of quality music produced if the trend continues.

 

[Dudd]

The fact of the matter is that the record companies cannot win. The old way of doing things will not work anymore. There is a new medium for distribution, and they better come up with a plan to work it, or others will. I'm not going to pay 99 cents a song. The record companies need to create their own system so that people can download albums, cd covers, live shows, etc. for one decent price, say 10-15 bucks a month, or they will need to sue a new college student every month.

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
"Why can't the record companies just admit that people don't buy the albums anymore because they can download it first and come to the conclusion that the cd is not worth the money."

Your opening sentence is a false premise. People are not downloading music to try it out, they download it instead of buying it. There have always been ways to "try out" music, listening to the radio, tv shows, concerts, which would lead to a percentage of those people buying the product. The current situation with file-sharing is the quality and the ease of sharing mp3s has led to way too many people using file-sharing to avoid buying music they otherwise would buy.

Maybe everyone isn't using file-sharing this way but a lot of people are. Enough that it will seriously reduce the amount of quality music produced if the trend continues.

Your statement is false. I download music to listen and see if the CD is worth it. If the cd has no more than 2 good songs on it, im not buying it for freaking 20 dollars.

 

[beatniks3]

Chadder007, thanks for backing me up on this. i know there are lots of people that do the same thing.

Syringer, take your yawny butt somewhere else. you don't know me. so how can u know what i buy or download? As it turns out, I buy records, but i always try and hear an album before i lay out the loot.

I just don't understand how usatoday can post such crap....someone please enlighten me.

 

[Vadatajs]

There's no excuse for an industry to thank its customers by turning them into criminals. The RIAA is outdated/wrong, no matter how you look at it. Download all the songs you want, and if you like them, send the artist (not their label) a check for $5. It's more than they'd make from their label from a cd you bought anyway.

 

[cpumaster]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
There's no excuse for an industry to thank its customers by turning them into criminals. The RIAA is outdated/wrong, no matter how you look at it. Download all the songs you want, and if you like them, send the artist (not their label) a check for $5. It's more than they'd make from their label from a cd you bought anyway.

I like that idea, but will that kind of volunteer system work? Has it ever worked?

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
There's no excuse for an industry to thank its customers by turning them into criminals. The RIAA is outdated/wrong, no matter how you look at it. Download all the songs you want, and if you like them, send the artist (not their label) a check for $5. It's more than they'd make from their label from a cd you bought anyway.

Are you also going to send money to the studio where it was recorded? There's more than just the artist involved in the making of a album.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: beatniks3
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Why can't the record companies just admit that people don't buy the albums anymore because they can download it first and come to the conclusion that the cd is not worth the money.

You're assuming that everyone does that, which I highly doubt is the case.

 

[bolinger]

Record companies cannot win against file-swappers; they can only offer them a more enticing alternative.

I'm thinking lossless tracks that can be burned to CD or put onto a portable player for $0.50 a piece; that would entice me to buy a ton of music instead of downloading tracks of varying quality illegally.

Of course, this won't happen until the record companies see a DRASTIC shrinkage in CD sales......something that is at least 4-5 years away.

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
There's no excuse for an industry to thank its customers by turning them into criminals. The RIAA is outdated/wrong, no matter how you look at it. Download all the songs you want, and if you like them, send the artist (not their label) a check for $5. It's more than they'd make from their label from a cd you bought anyway.

Are you also going to send money to the studio where it was recorded? There's more than just the artist involved in the making of a album.

That's a loss I'm willing to let the big 5 absorb.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: beatniks3
Chadder007, thanks for backing me up on this. i know there are lots of people that do the same thing.

Syringer, take your yawny butt somewhere else. you don't know me. so how can u know what i buy or download? As it turns out, I buy records, but i always try and hear an album before i lay out the loot.

I just don't understand how usatoday can post such crap....someone please enlighten me.

I know people who download songs and DONT pay for them. You bought it! Good for you. However, you show me some proof that 75% of people that uses filesharing programs actually go out and buy the actual song they downloaded.