Check my temps...

Mr Bob

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All hard drives are listed in the sig, but the sensors are directly next to the raptors.

Idle for a couple hours:
AMD X2 4400+: 34.0 c
X1800XT: 38.0 c
Hard drive bay 1: 56.0 c (sensor direct touch on hard drive)
Hard drive bay 2: 45.5 c (sensor half touch on hard drive)

After 30 mins of game play:
AMD X2 4400+: 38.5 c
X1800XT: 42.5 c
Hard drive bay 1: 55.0 c (sensor direct touch on hard drive)
Hard drive bay 2: 45.5 c (sensor half touch on hard drive)

How are my temps? When should I be concerned? Should I grab an aftermarket cooler just to be safe?
 

pkme2

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My temp on my AMD rigs pretty much match yours. When my ambient is 28C, my cpu working 38C, load 45C. Now, ambient is 21C, cpu working 34C, mobo 27C, load 40C.
There are other AT members who would kill to get your temps. Your airflow setup looks well designed.
http://www.gen-x-pc.com/cputemps.htm

By the way, what's your case?
 

pkme2

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You could add 1 more 120mm to cover your 80mm intakes. The 80mm are noisier than the 120mm fan, but that's your choice. Too bad you can't get an adapter to cover the 80mm intakes to one 120mm.
 

Mr Bob

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I think it would look better with two 80mm fans. Any suggestion for a fan?
 

Griswold

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The HDD temps are a bit on the hot side. They probably wont die next week or next year because of it, but 55°C is definitely not something that guarantees them a long and healthy life.

The other temperatures are just fine.
 

skooma

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Your temps are inaccurate anyway as you've already left the game. tey testing it like this- dual prime with rthdribl for 30 mins to an hour :p
 

Mr Bob

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"Your temps are inaccurate anyway as you've already left the game."
- I run the Thermaltake A2259 Hardcano that provides the temps/fan speeds on the front of the case, so I don't need a program to give me the output, meaning, the game is actually open when I took the readings.

"The HDD temps are a bit on the hot side. They probably wont die next week or next year because of it, but 55°C is definitely not something that guarantees them a long and healthy life. "
- Any suggestion for cooling the drives? Or to ensure that the thermal is in the correct place to take the reading. Here is a picture of the hard drive bay: http://mylianli.com/images/hard-drive-rack-M.jpg
 

skooma

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Ahh, so the title should be "check my completely inaccurate temps" :)

Just joking but seriously, if you're asking to check temps, those aren't real temps so whats the point?
 

Mr Bob

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If you don't think those are real, then tell me how to get real ones. I have a heat sensor, maybe it isn't in the correct position?
 

skooma

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Well, for the card, all (or all modern, ok almost all modern) cards have a temp sensor built in. I'd think ati toool or something in catalyst should give you a reading.

As for the cpu, you should be able to get it from any software program like speed fan or whatever came with the mobo.

That would certainly be more accurate than reading from the heatsink.

To properly use a temp probe, you need to get on top or at least extremely close to the actual core. I wouldn't recommend it for general temp monitoring.
 

HardWarrior

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Originally posted by: pkme2
For very accurate readings, maybe you can try this
or something similiar.

Where do you get this constant flow of crap ideas? Where should the OP point this thing to get an "accurate" CPU reading, the heatsink?

Trust your sensors, what else can you do without a major headache?

 

pkme2

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Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Originally posted by: pkme2
For very accurate readings, maybe you can try this
or something similiar.

Where do you get this constant flow of crap ideas? Where should the OP point this thing to get an "accurate" CPU reading, the heatsink?

Trust your sensors, what else can you do without a major headache?

Because you believe that sensors are all you need to check temperatures?
Well, I don't. So many threads have erratic readings stated, so you'll going to trust sensors? Crap. An IR temperature sensor is more trustworthy than anything you can come up with. Since you seem not to know how to use one, I've been using one to read my temps.
 

HardWarrior

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Answer the question, brain-trust. Where should the OP point a temp gun to get an accurate CPU reading? And while you're pondering that, why should everyone ignore their socket and diode sensors? Because you WILL it so? You say you "know how to use one" of these things, right? That just means you want to believe what it says, that's all, just like I want to believe the sensors that I've spent hours trying to calibrate.

If you weren't such a flaming poseur you'd understand this and stop trying to force-feed your ego to anyone who comes close.
 

Griswold

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Originally posted by: Mr Bob
"The HDD temps are a bit on the hot side. They probably wont die next week or next year because of it, but 55°C is definitely not something that guarantees them a long and healthy life. "
- Any suggestion for cooling the drives? Or to ensure that the thermal is in the correct place to take the reading. Here is a picture of the hard drive bay: http://mylianli.com/images/hard-drive-rack-M.jpg

You are not reading the HDD temperatures via the internal temp sensor in the drives (SMART)? If that is the case, the actual temperatures could even be a bit higher than what you posted.

Thats alot of drives by the way. The only suggestion I have, is to move the majority of the drives closer to the intake fan. Maybe add 1 or 2 fans in the PSU compartment to suck more air out of the case, that could help too despite there not being too many big holes between the drive- and PSU compartment for good airflow.

 

Mr Bob

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"I'd think ati toool or something in catalyst should give you a reading."
- You're right, it does read the video card temps, I will have to run some test with that.

"As for the cpu, you should be able to get it from any software program like speed fan or whatever came with the mobo."
- I have the CoreCenter program that will give my CPU temps.

"To properly use a temp probe, you need to get on top or at least extremely close to the actual core. I wouldn't recommend it for general temp monitoring."
- If that is the case, temp probes are totally useless. I would have to remove the heatsink to get it near the core for the CPU- that would be stupid. Were these just made for kicks? For people to be able to go around and say "I have a temp probe"?

"Where should the OP point a temp gun to get an accurate CPU reading? And while you're pondering that, why should everyone ignore their socket and diode sensors?"
- lol, well said.

"You are not reading the HDD temperatures via the internal temp sensor in the drives (SMART)?"
- Nope, and I look at WD to find their SMART program, and couldn't find it, any help with a link for a download? The drives are behind raid.

"The only suggestion I have, is to move the majority of the drives closer to the intake fan."
- I don't think I will be able to do that, any suggestions for a better layout of the intake fan? The intake fan's position helps with the overall airflow, and I think if I move it, it will disrupt that airflow.

"Maybe add 1 or 2 fans in the PSU compartment to suck more air out of the case, that could help too despite there not being too many big holes between the drive- and PSU compartment for good airflow."
- That's my plan! I don't even need something that blows a lot, I was thinking of just a near silent fan such as this one: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications...etails.asp?EdpNo=586525&Tab=0&NoMapp=0
 

Griswold

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Originally posted by: Mr Bob
"You are not reading the HDD temperatures via the internal temp sensor in the drives (SMART)?"
- Nope, and I look at WD to find their SMART program, and couldn't find it, any help with a link for a download? The drives are behind raid.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think some drives wont allow temperature read-out (or SMART for that matter) when in RAID config. I dont have a RAID setup so I cant test that theory. However, if you enable SMART in bios and use SiSoft Sandra, you can find out, as it can read the temperature sensor of hard drives under "ATA/ATAPI Devices".

"The only suggestion I have, is to move the majority of the drives closer to the intake fan."
- I don't think I will be able to do that, any suggestions for a better layout of the intake fan? The intake fan's position helps with the overall airflow, and I think if I move it, it will disrupt that airflow.

I think the intake is fine where it is now. I also think that moving most drives to the forward drive cage would cool more drives just with the airflow from the intake fan. I assume the drive bay with lower temperatures is the one closer to the intake fan? But if cable length doesnt permit that...





 

Mr Bob

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"I think the intake is fine where it is now. I also think that moving most drives to the forward drive cage would cool more drives just with the airflow from the intake fan. I assume the drive bay with lower temperatures is the one closer to the intake fan? But if cable length doesnt permit that... "
- I won't have any room, I already run 9 drives, and plan to add another TB in the next month or so. I will be adding two 80mm fans to help take out the heat that the front fans are pushing away from the hard drive bay.

If cooling is an issue, I need to figure out another way to fix it. I looked into the SMART stuff, and found that it actuallly does not work in raid, unless I compile it under linux.
 

pkme2

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Originally posted by: HardWarrior
Answer the question, brain-trust. Where should the OP point a temp gun to get an accurate CPU reading? And while you're pondering that, why should everyone ignore their socket and diode sensors? Because you WILL it so? You say you "know how to use one" of these things, right? That just means you want to believe what it says, that's all, just like I want to believe the sensors that I've spent hours trying to calibrate.

If you weren't such a flaming poseur you'd understand this and stop trying to force-feed your ego to anyone who comes close.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to point a IR thermometer to get a reading. What's so hard about that? This forum is to offer choices. If one wants to rely on a socket or diode sensor, that's their forte.
I use a IR to take accurate readings, the same IR used by professionals. My opinion is just as good as your's. Read the link before you try to flame anybody.
http://www.me-us.com/temperature/p_optris-handheld.htm
http://www.omega.com/prodinfo/infraredthermometer.html
If you now believe yourself right, let's hear it. I may not be the smartest person in your opinion but at least I work from facts.
 

HardWarrior

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Originally posted by: pkme2
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to point a IR thermometer to get a reading. What's so hard about that?

Ah, the master of meat-headed obfuscation and self-aggrandizement is back. Did I ask you how to point anything? The question was, and still is, where do you point your magic heat gun to get an accurate temp reading for a CPU? The fan mounted on the HS, the HS itself, the back of the motherboard tray, etc? Should the OP remove his HSF and get that great and accurate reading just before his processor explodes? There, I was kind enough to offer you some options. Now answer the question, please.

This forum is to offer choices.

Choices is it? For you maybe, being able to choose what utter BS you get to babble about. For normal folks, I think this place is more about simple communication and sharing experiences.

If one wants to rely on a socket or diode sensor, that's their forte.

Oh really? You weren't so magnanimous a few posts ago.

Well, I don't. So many threads have erratic readings stated, so you'll going to trust sensors? Crap. An IR temperature sensor is more trustworthy than anything you can come up with.

And I hasten to add that anyone who wants to point a heat gun at things so insulated away from a heat source as to be irrelevant and crow about ?accuracy? is free to do that as well.

I use a IR to take accurate readings, the same IR used by professionals.

Do you have any understanding of the fact that different tools work best for some applications and not others? :Q

My opinion is just as good as your's.

Wouldn't that depend on the subject matter?

Read the link before you try to flame anybody.

Don't you DARE try to lecture me about "flaming", you goon. Surely you haven't forgotten our first exchange. You know, the one where you mistook me for another poster and didn't even have the stones to TRY an apology, after what to mods call a "detailed attack."

Here's the meat of your product endorsement, sir:

Infrared pyrometers allow users to measure temperature in applications where conventional sensors cannot be employed. Specifically, in cases dealing with moving objects ( i.e., rollers, moving machinery, or a conveyor belt), or where non-contact measurements are required because of contamination or hazardous reasons (such as high voltage), where distances are too great, or where the temperatures to be measured are too high for thermocouples or other contact sensors.

Now dissect this, if you can, and show me where this sort of device would be applicable in measuring a heat source that's masked by several layers of C/W-altering material?

I will, of course, wait for your response, but the manufacturer has something to say about this condition:

The critical considerations for any infrared pyrometer include field of view (target size and distance), type of surface being measured (emissivity considerations), spectral response (for atmospheric effects or transmission through surfaces), temperature range and mounting (handheld portable or fixed mount). Other considerations include response time, environment, mounting limitations, viewing port or window applications, and desired signal processing.

If you now believe yourself right, let's hear it.

Whuh? Right about what?

I may not be the smartest person in your opinion but at least I work from facts.

If I wanted to express an opinion on your intelligence, I would have. Don't jump the gun. You've shown absolutely NO facts, dude. You're offering up your personal take on things, nothing more.