Cheating is acceptable in the NFL today?

[bignateyk]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: ThePresence
This is the cheating you should be worried about, not quizzing players about their former team's system.

meh... I dont care about steroids that much. Sure its a health concern for the players... but as long as all teams and players have the same access to it, its a level field.
Its the things that give one team an unfair advantage over another thats cheating.

wtf.. was that a serious comment?

 

[NatePo717]

This is what I would consider Cheating.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: ThePresence
This is the cheating you should be worried about, not quizzing players about their former team's system.

meh... I dont care about steroids that much. Sure its a health concern for the players... but as long as all teams and players have the same access to it, its a level field.
Its the things that give one team an unfair advantage over another thats cheating.

wtf.. was that a serious comment?

Absolutely.

 

[rsd]

Originally posted by: bignateyk

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: ThePresence
This is the cheating you should be worried about, not quizzing players about their former team's system.

meh... I dont care about steroids that much. Sure its a health concern for the players... but as long as all teams and players have the same access to it, its a level field.
Its the things that give one team an unfair advantage over another thats cheating.

wtf.. was that a serious comment?

well that should end this thread

 

[Compton]

You see, cheating's a big business. And it's been going on since the beginning of time. And it's going to continue straight ahead, until somebody turns out the lights on this small planet. Can you dig it?

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: NatePo717
This is what I would consider Cheating.

:laugh:

 

[JS80]

steriods = cheating
buying info = smart

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: wyvrn

Originally posted by: thepd7
LOL if the guy gives up info then he is the one without integrity. Every team has done this at least once I bet. Maybe not cut the player right after, but certainly gotten info from people about their old teams.

Not if he is under the impression he is going to play for that team.

Then his agent cheated by not getting a better contract.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

The Niners just acquired a backup QB from the Seahawks.

 

[JulesMaximus]

404 - cheating not found

 

[marvdmartian]

Originally posted by: sash1
the bills just suck. and the pats are a much better team, that's why they won. its not cheating.

Yeah, that's why they won by 2, and not 20, right? :roll:

 

[Fern]

Cheating is acceptable in the NFL today?

Have you never seen an NFL punter collapse to the ground like his spinal cord was severed when another player only got near him?

Have you never seen a receiver pretend he caught the ball when it actually hit the ground? Ya know, scoop it up off the ground and then roll over fast and hold it up like he made a catch?

You know, back when the World Cup (soccer) was on, people complained a lot about the "dives" players were taking in effort to get a free penalty kick etc. But in Soccer you can be penalized (yellow or red card IIRC) for "faking" a penalty. Maybe the NFL needs something like that?

I suggest if a punter fakes being hit, on the nest punt the regular rule is suspended so the other team gets a "free hit" on him

Fern

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: sao123
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Bills say Smith signing a trick play
By Karen Guregian
Boston Herald General Sports Reporter and Columnist

Monday, September 11, 2006 - Updated: 05:47 AM EST

FOXBORO - On the surface, it sure looked like the Patriots signed former Buffalo Bills receiver Jonathan Smith just for the purpose of picking his brain for information, stealing secrets about yesterday?s opponent, before dumping him to the side of the road Saturday.

The Pats signed Smith last Sunday and cut him loose before yesterday?s 19-17 victory over the Bills, going with just three wide receivers in the game, as Chad Jackson and Doug Gabriel were both inactive with injuries.

Was it a coincidence, was he just not that good, or was the Pats? purpose for signing Smith merely for pilfering info?

?It?s not the first time they?ve done it,? said Bills wide receiver Lee Evans when asked about the latter scenario. ?It?s the nature of the business, part of the game, I guess. There?s not a whole lot you can say about it. It?s just what they wanted to do.?

Evans wasn?t alone in his assessment. Other players in the opposing locker room agreed the Smith signing had a foul smell to it.

?I heard he got cut. My first reaction was, they just brought him in to get info,? said cornerback Terrence McGee. ?They were dealing him kind of dirty.?

McGee, however, saw Smith in the hallway of Gillette Stadium following warm-ups, so he wasn?t sure what was going on. It?s possible he was just visiting players, or doing the double-reverse on the Pats, and feeding the Bills info, or Bill Belichick has other ideas for him.

If the double-reverse scenario is the case, it?s curious the Pats didn?t wait to release him until after the game.

The question is, can a player really help another team, tipping them off to another?s playbook in such a short time?

?No doubt,? Evans said. ?He?s been with the (Bills) organization for the last few years. He?s been through three training camps. He knew what we were doing over here. I?m not saying he gave up everything, but I?m sure they tried to get some questions answered out of him. That?s just the way the game goes.?

Evans didn?t think the Pats were in position ahead of plays, or knew which plays were coming, but Smith could have filled them in on such things as snap counts, or ?stuff you couldn?t tell on film.?

Said free safety Troy Vincent: ?We know the game. It?s a chess game. Everyone does it. Whether they get information or not, that?s just part of the game.?

Bills general manager Marv Levy didn?t want to speculate on the Pats? motives. He believes teams rely more heavily on watching film and scouting reports than hiring players from enemy camps for a week.

?If that was the case, I feel bad for him because he was a reluctant cut on our part,? Levy said. ?But by and large, I really don?t think you get much from it. The player can?t offer much because he doesn?t know the game plan. He may tell you a little about the system, but it?s so much broader than that.?

So now cheating is acceptable???
Man I have no respect for the pats now. Not now. Not never again.

WAHHHHH!!!:roll:

 

[GregGreen]

Originally posted by: marvdmartian

Originally posted by: sash1
the bills just suck. and the pats are a much better team, that's why they won. its not cheating.

Yeah, that's why they won by 2, and not 20, right? :roll:

And with the exception of a couple bad calls by the Bills' coaching staff and the refs definatly giving the Pats homefield advantage, it could have been a lot different. Has anyone figured out why they gave the Bills the ball at 48 instead of the 10 off the interception (why did they blow that play dead btw? He sure as hell didn't go out of bounds). Not to say the Bills didn't blow it themselves, but the loss of momentum on the road like that does hurt a lot.

 

[tfinch2]

?If that was the case, I feel bad for him because he was a reluctant cut on our part,? Levy said. ?But by and large, I really don?t think you get much from it. The player can?t offer much because he doesn?t know the game plan. He may tell you a little about the system, but it?s so much broader than that.?

 

[waggy]

is it dirty, nasty and mean? sure but not cheating.

 

[Icanoutsmokeany1]

The Bucs vs. Raiders in the Superbowl...now that is a case of a team knowing info about the other time in a major way. I doubt some kick returner can give you game-pertinent info. Either way, what a sheisty move to do to a player.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Fern

Cheating is acceptable in the NFL today?

Have you never seen an NFL punter collapse to the ground like his spinal cord was severed when another player only got near him?

Fern

That's cause they're all former soccer players......it's a natural reflex for them.

 

[KillyKillall]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: sash1
the bills just suck. and the pats are a much better team, that's why they won. its not cheating.

Which game were you watching? Certainly not the one I saw.

2nd'd