Cheapest way to record (2+) sd tv (not hd)? Still using vcrs... Please advise.

Sophia

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What is the cheapest way to record standard digital tv (not hd) on a record two (or three) and watch one live basis?

Some history:

In the days of analog television, I used a splitter and A/B switch to hook two vcrs (with tuners) to the cable outlet and hooked up one of the vcrs to the tv. This allowed me to record two programs simultaneously while leaving the tv free for someone else to watch a third program live.

After switching to digital cable, I could no longer split the signal with any kind of quality, which didn't matter much since timed-recording using a vcr and the new digital cable box never worked anyway. Eventually, I ended up with three vcrs in three separate rooms, two doing the recording, and the third in the living room for playback—clunky, but still frugal.

I've never seen a reason to switch to the cable company dvr: $17/mo for fewer recording options (record two or record one + watch one) than just buying a couple of used vcrs off Craigslist for $20. Nonetheless, vcrs with tuners are scarce these days, and while I could continue to buy all the older vcrs that remain in existence, what are some less ancient options?

What I have available:

Cox cable – no obviously scrambled channels like hbo, but I watch some non-local channels (tnt, usa, syfy).

One digital cable box on a tv that must be available to other people.

Three other cable outlets in separate rooms.

Work computer: athlon 64 x2 4800+ (Vista x64) which is used daily and can't be in same room as as the television I want to view on. I also have an athlon 1800+ single core and most of a celeron 1100mhz box (both with XP).

Ideas? :)
 

poofyhairguy

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I have digital cable, but will a pc tv tuner get all the same channels the vcrs currently do (2-70 or so) without using a cable box?

You get the right analog tuner (like the one I mentioned) and it will get the same cable channels that any old VCR or TV gets.

Or can I expect results more like: http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels/ which is not a particularly impressive line-up for my area.

That is for a HDhomerun which is HD channels. I have one of those, the point of the device is to either get local HD channels off of your cable or from an antenna.

The HDhomerun cannot tune old analog channels though. The PCI card I mentioned can- that is what you need.

If you want HD or digital quality (outside the Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS channels) its hell on earth. But for old SD cable channels its easy.
 
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electroju

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There are none of the TV tuner cards that work reliable for me to recommend. I recommend use a combination of a VCR or cable box to tune to NTSC channels. People here will disagree with me because they are misinformed about the quality of the tuners. On my setup, I usually get noise or distorted for channel. For me each channel have different receiving quality. Some channels are a out of phase and noising, so TV tuner cards are useless to me and I recommend a VCR or cable box to be used as the tuner.

In Linux and Windows, you are dependent on the quality of the software for recording. There is no reliable option. IMHO, Mac provides a better option for PVR. In Linux, I do not recommend MythTV. XBMC is better, but not the best. Using Hauppuage PVR cards in Linux is not always reliable. You have to be picky what firmware you are using for these PVR cards or else the card will not work reliable and stable.

The DVico TVIX PVR R-2210 is a good option. You do not need a computer to record. You can record NTSC or ATSC. You can also record from S-Video or Composite. You do not need a computer for it. You will need to add a hard drive.
 

Modelworks

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The cable and satellite companies have made it hell to come up with your own solution for DVR. I went with OTA for tv because I couldn't justify the cost and got tired of the worrying with boxes when I wanted to record content. Now I use windows media center and tv tuners and its great. I never have to leave media center to watch tv, netflix, hulu, my local movies or do anything I need it to do .

I use ATI 6xx model tuners and it actually receives channels better than my tv's built in tuner.

You may want to look at tivo , but that too comes with a monthly contract.