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cheapest dsl sharing config?

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Plester

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what is the best/cheapest way to share a dsl line between 2 non networked machines. i am guessing a 4 port dsl router, otherwise i need a hub if i get a single port router?
 
cheapest way? network them together using a crossover cable, then run some ICS software like (windows ICS)...

All you need to do this is just 2 NICs (assuming you already have one for the DSL) and a crossover cable... with the price of NICs nowadays, should not run you much over $20...
 
there is no cheapest/best

cheapest would be to use ICS which is free if you have win98se or win2k

best would be to get a router. search for router.
 
I would like to know also. There is no way on this planet you could get me to use a non-NAT based sharing proggie.

Winroute rocks. Best NAT-based sharing program IMO.

Dirk
 
how far away are the two machines?

You definitely want cat5, if possible.. Other options are wireless and phoneline, but they are expensive and slow
 
Well, here is what I did; I have a main office room in the house and was trying to get the computers in my Kid's rooms to share the main dsl connection. There was no way to pull wire under the house or thru the attic, based on the way the design is. I looked into wireless and about crapped....almost $1000 to do what I wanted to do. :Q
Here is what I ended up doing:
Drilled the outside wall in my office, ran cat5 cable around the outside of the house, stapling as I went, then into each of the Kid's rooms. It ended up being about 120' of cable by the time I got it done. Once I got all the drilling and cable runs made, I bought some of those plasic junction boxes like you would have in the wall for 110volts. I put two in my office wall, cutting the squares with my handy dremel tool, then one in each of the Kid's rooms. When I got it all done, I had 2 rj45 jacks in my office wall, close together, and 1 in each Kid's room.
It was all coasting from there. I took my DSL modem, ran it into one of the ports on my 5 port linksys hub. Next I took 2 patch cables and plugged them into the hub, then into the wall jacks and plugged the Kid's computers into the jacks in their walls. Finally, I plugged my pc into the hub and voila!!!! 3 working full time internet connections. Don't know that that's the cheapest, but I think it's the best, under the circumstances. We can network too. 😀
 
I have verizon dsl and all i did was connect an uplink to the a 5port hub and then networked all my computers. It all depends if you have static or dynamic ip address. trust me I learned the hard way, I tried to do the same thing with my girlfriends computer with her roomates using cable modem. Its much cheaper buying a 5 port router than a 1 port router and a hub.GOODLUCK
 
Well, what I'm doign is not gonna work for the long term. I just got a nastygram from my isp saying I was abusing my ip and that I needed to come into compliance immediately, or my service would be terminated. I had no idea, what I did inside my home with the network would be a problem. Any ideas on how else to share internet thru a network?
 
Compuwiz1,

I think a router would solve that problem.

Since you already have a hub, you gould get a 1 port router.

 
The new sygate 4.0 you don't have to put in two network cards it will do it with one card in the server.I have had a few freind try it and they say it works great.
 
Update: Well at 10:30 this morning my ISP was threatening to terminate my service, due to Abuse / Mismanagement of ip addresses. I called them, explaining that I would never intentionally breach my contract, but I guess I had missed some of the fine print, and asked what I could do to get in compliance with the least amount of pain. I explained to them that my previous isp in Washington State were the ones who suggested and condoned the way I set it up. Infact the tech gave me a couple free cat5 cables. Anyway, since I was allowed a single dynamic ip, they offered to upgrade me to 3 static ip's for an extra $10 per month. I agreed. The tech stayed on the line, gave me the ip numbers and walked me thru all three configs. It only took about 7 minutes as I pretty much knew what to do, just had not set up with static ip's before. Anyway, I'm out of the heat and still have all my connections. 🙂
 
Compuwiz

Man, your ISP must be a prick. Got the Linksys router serving up my DSL to 2 computers and an occasional laptop over here. Been doing it for months and have not heard a peep from them!

Sorry
 
Damn straight they must be pricks. Depending on how their setup is and the hardware they/you use you could have gotten around it easier.


Easiest setup I've seen? Any ISP that offers a Cisco 675 for the modem(sic.) You plug that in to the phone, plug the LAN port into a hub/switch and you're done. Well, you do have to set the gateway and DHCP servers on each PC but other than that...

Maybe not the cheapest, the box is usually 300, sometimes on promo for 150, got mine for 75. Have ~10-15 pc's on one line from US-West. Hell, they actually suggested it... 😀
 
compuwiz1:

like that one guy said, 1 dynamic IP with 1 router is the best way to go..

routers route the data from the three computers onto the one dynamic IP and back..

The ISP won't ever know that you have three computers on the line; they only see the 1 IP of the router.

The HUB was a mistake becuase the HUB doesn't route but only repeats signals... Therefore, your ISP was getting signals from each of the three computers and could see all three of them..

Jason
 
jjismas is absolutely correct. Easy solution: linksys 4 port router. It has DHCP and nat and your ISP wouldn't know.

Cheapest solution? Linux running IPChains. Great set up and rock solid.

Did the ISP guy tell you that both of your machines are exposed to the internet and that if you are sharing files locally that ANYONE on the interenet can see them too? That's why a router running nat is soo much better. Gives you a miny firewall in addition to the being able to use multiple pc's on one lan...

Proxy??? No way.....

 
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