Cheaper P-D Coming

Markfw

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The 820 is bad enough Why would anybody go even lower ? and 533 bus to boot ! I think at that speed a 3200 venice would kill it !
 

theMan

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wait, in response to the 3800+? meaning they released a chip that is twice as slow as the 3800+?
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: Cooler
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20050722085026.html

looks like this is intel's reponse to the 3800



What are you??? You know the 820 loses now by 20-30% from gaming to multimedia now versus the 3800+ so how in the fvck is lowering the speed and additional 5% going to be an answer to the ass-whopping it is already getting???

Now you are talking about a cpu so slow in single core apps that intel doesn't make one (single core P4) that slow currently unless you look at celerons....

I am sure they can make a 2.4ghz one if they wanted to...also notice how the 2.66ghz is going to be an 533fsb chip....P4b days and this is only going to hamper performance by another 5%+...this thing will be 40% the performance is my guess....

tehy can keep dropping them until they are free but the performance hit is getting so great what kind of an upgrade is it going to be for most....Pure marketing ploy....
 

Cooler

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I Know that it will will intel is trying to cut prices to fool the public and it might just work.
 

Duvie

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Intel Pentium D 805 will operate at 2.66GHz, will contain 2MB L2 cache (1MB per core) and will use 533MHz processor system bus, reports HKEPC web-site. Currently the most affordable Intel dual-core processor is Intel Pentium D 820, which functions at 2.80GHz and utilizes 800MHz Quad Pumped Bus.

According to a short report published by the Asian web-site, the new Pentium D 805 would be mainly promoted among system makers in conjunction with inexpensive Intel 945GZ core-logic, which is only expected to be available in the beginning of next year, which may indicate that Intel?s 2.66GHz dual-core chip is not something, which will be available shortly.

This makes good business sense but shows it is not targeted at us as users...probably makes the price thing below make more sense...

Intel?s 945GZ core-logic will support processors with 800MHz and 533MHz processor system bus, will feature single-channel DDR2 memory controller, will integrate Intel GMA950 graphics core and will lack PCI Express x16 port for graphics cards, according to certain reports. By contrast, current Intel 945-series chipsets support processors with up to 1066MHz processor system bus, dual-channel DDR2 SDRAM controller as well as feature PCI Express x16 slot for graphics cards.

Intel Pentium D 805 is likely to cost less than $241, the price at which Intel Pentium D 820 is sold.


Where is the savings?? what are we looking at for price when it is targeted at business users more.... great thanks!!!!:roll:

The company?s arch-rival Advanced Micro Devices is reportedly also preparing relatively affordable dual-core chips, but those are unlikely to cost less than $300 within the next couple of quarters.

This is how you know the ppl who post this stuff are trolls or Intel fanboys....Hey lets overlook this part!!! probably around but not less then 300 versus a 240 and slightly less dollar part...neglible ppl when you start to figure other cost and then related to performance...30-40% less should be a lot more then a 100 dollars if you look at current cpu lineups....

 

fatty4ksu

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That's an insane price for a dual-core CPU.

Props to Intel. I may nab that chip for a backup encoding computer.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
That's an insane price for a dual-core CPU.

Props to Intel. I may nab that chip for a backup encoding computer.


what price jack-ass??? They didnt list one...Troll!!!

Where are those picks of your X2??

You ralize that a 533fsb is only going to hamper it?? remember the jump from P4b's to P4c's??? On top of the slower clock speed versus the 820...Ofcouse you didn't know this!!!

 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
That's an insane price for a dual-core CPU.

Props to Intel. I may nab that chip for a backup encoding computer.

You grab that chip Fatty :D

The rest of us will laugh our arses off :p
 

TuxDave

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You know... for the people who want to buy $400 Dell computers for their mom and dad.
 

theMan

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fatty, why would a 9 year old need a backup encoding computer? and how could a 9 year old just "grab one of those" dont you need to ask your mommy and daddy first?
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: TuxDave
You know... for the people who want to buy $400 Dell computers for their mom and dad.



That computer would never be sold as a 400 dollar system...good try though!!! the chip likely will be in the 200 dollar range and even with integrated i945 mobo it will price out about 1.5x to 2x that at least...especially if you have even bothered to look at where the 820's are selling for at Dell..I have!!!
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: Hacp
You can always overclock can't you ? :).



you are right it could be the "little engine that could" though it will still top out likely at same level the 820 does with air cooling...which is far short of what it would need to be to compete with a 3800+ x2 Oc'd on air....

 

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I think this is a good step toward eliminating single core completely. In my eyes this will not be targetted at enthusiats or power users at all.....however it will give the prebuilt OEM systems (dell, HP, ect) to ship an entry level computer complete with dual core for $600 or so including monitor. This will drastically increase the dual core installed base, and promote the development of multi-threaded software....a good step toward dual core cpu's becoming standard, imo.
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: IeraseU
I think this is a good step toward eliminating single core completely. In my eyes this will not be targetted at enthusiats or power users at all.....however it will give the prebuilt OEM systems (dell, HP, ect) to ship an entry level computer complete with dual core for $600 or so including monitor. This will drastically increase the dual core installed base, and promote the development of multi-threaded software....a good step toward dual core cpu's becoming standard, imo.



Again most prebuilt under 600 dollar Pcs are done with celeron and chips in the 120 dollars or less range. I would find it tough to get a P-D even with this chip for under 600 especially with what was listed as their target customers. Either you get a stripped system or no monitor but under 600 would be a tall order for what may still conceivably be a 200 dollar cpu...


Edit: actually I am forgetting integrated video so I imagine it could be done but not a very good system IMO....
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: TuxDave
You know... for the people who want to buy $400 Dell computers for their mom and dad.



That computer would never be sold as a 400 dollar system...good try though!!! the chip likely will be in the 200 dollar range and even with integrated i945 mobo it will price out about 1.5x to 2x that at least...especially if you have even bothered to look at where the 820's are selling for at Dell..I have!!!

Give it some time. By next year, 90% of the systems sold will be dual cores and so there isn't a 'premium' anymore for such a product. $400 computers will be around and they will be dual cores in the near future. Since I don't see any dual core celerons hanging around, this is an obvious move.
 

blckgrffn

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I don't know why all you guys are slamming this so hard... plenty of people I know DON'T use their computers just to game or do super intensive tasks, this thing will do great when it comes to running outlook, dvdshrink, iTunes, limewire, etc. all at the same time. I wouldn't hesitate to reccomend a product like this to them as long as it is ~$175 and I can get a *decent* motheboard to go with it sub $100. DDR2 is cheap and life can be good if lighten up a little :)

This will be about as fast a 12-18 month old dual 2.66 ghz Xeon box, what is so shabby about that?

Nat
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: TuxDave
You know... for the people who want to buy $400 Dell computers for their mom and dad.



That computer would never be sold as a 400 dollar system...good try though!!! the chip likely will be in the 200 dollar range and even with integrated i945 mobo it will price out about 1.5x to 2x that at least...especially if you have even bothered to look at where the 820's are selling for at Dell..I have!!!

Give it some time. By next year, 90% of the systems sold will be dual cores and so there isn't a 'premium' anymore for such a product. $400 computers will be around and they will be dual cores in the near future. Since I don't see any dual core celerons hanging around, this is an obvious move.



I can see it about 1 year from now and these still low end smithfields.....
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: Duvie
Originally posted by: TuxDave
You know... for the people who want to buy $400 Dell computers for their mom and dad.



That computer would never be sold as a 400 dollar system...good try though!!! the chip likely will be in the 200 dollar range and even with integrated i945 mobo it will price out about 1.5x to 2x that at least...especially if you have even bothered to look at where the 820's are selling for at Dell..I have!!!

Give it some time. By next year, 90% of the systems sold will be dual cores and so there isn't a 'premium' anymore for such a product. $400 computers will be around and they will be dual cores in the near future. Since I don't see any dual core celerons hanging around, this is an obvious move.

I can see it about 1 year from now and these still low end smithfields.....

So we're in agreement on our 1 year prediction? That's nice...