i was in need of a cheap agp card for pretty much strictly 2d use and came across this card at PC Surplus Online. They are system pulls with a 30-day warranty and were orginally made by the now-defunct Number Nine. From what i have read, however, you can download current reference drivers from s3 and they work fine. These are only 8MB cards but if you are doing mostly 2d work these should more than suffice - and the image quality is supposed to be above average as well.