Chavez: Europe risks oil over immigrant law

[1prophet]

Chavez: Europe risks oil over immigrant law

CARACAS - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez on Thursday threatened to stop selling oil to European countries if they apply a new ruling on illegal immigrants that is criticized in Latin America and by human rights groups.

European Union lawmakers ruled on Wednesday that illegal immigrants can be detained for up to 18 months and face a reentry ban of up to five years.

"We can't just stand by with our arms crossed," Chavez said at an event to celebrate his OPEC country's oil supplies to South America attended by Paraguay's visiting president-elect, who also criticized the law.

Millions of Latin Americans live in Europe, many from poor Andean countries and war-weary Colombia.

For centuries colonized by European nations, after independence Latin America also received waves of European immigrants escaping the major wars and economic crises of the 20th century.

"Venezuelan oil will not go to the countries that apply this shameful directive. I'll say it now, Venezuelan oil will not go," Chavez said.

The socialist ally of Cuba also threatened to expel investments made by such countries, warning he would draw up a list of their business in the OPEC member nation.

"We are ready to do this now," he said. "Here in Venezuela at least, they won't be missed."

Chavez has already nationalized several foreign companies in Venezuela, turning them into joint ventures controlled by the state. France's Total and Norway's Statoil are among the European companies operating in Venezuela.

He called on other leaders in the region to take action against the law.

Looks like Chavez is finally waking up to the fact that the Bush Bogeyman isn't going to be around too much longer so he needs a new one, and America having a minority President might confuse him.

Hey Chavez, I don't think it's the Latin American immigrants that the Europeans are so scared of but you won't hear them say that.

 

[StageLeft]

Without oil revenues his country is caput. Really this doesn't matter; if he doesn't sell to them he'd probably sell more to the US and others and they'd buy less OPEC, but then OPEC (the rest of it) would sell more to Europe. my guess is on a market like this you cannot really pick your customers. It's kind of a meaningless statement.

 

[lupi]

One of the few good reasons to get out of iraq soon; to go apply a little manifest destiny to the monroe doctrine.

 

[SamurAchzar]

He knows exactly who's the law targeting. For a while now he's been an ally of extremist countries like Iran. He knows that if he wants to weaken the western world, there's no better way than this immigration. Chavez understands this 5th column will eat most of the western world alive. Other than the US, all the rest are suffering from massive immigration from Arab countries.

The Europeans finally understood that nothing good will turn out of their cities becoming clones of Middle Eastern ones and that their culture, legacy and values are being thrown out the window. It was to be expected - every one who visited countries like Belgium even 10 years ago and saw the ratio of immigrants to natives could predict it.

Immigration is OK in small quantities, and when the immigrants are looking to integrate into the host society. When they just flood it and try to bend it and turn it into outpost of their home countries, it can't be good.

 

[Robor]

Am I reading this correctly? Cheavez is pissed because European countries want to enforce their borders? Um, ok.

 

[PokerGuy]

Chavez is within his rights to sell to whomever he pleases. That's why it's so important to get off the oil addiction and find alternative energy sources. The sooner this is done, the sooner guys like Chavez can go back to being meaningless little dictators.

 

[Atreus21]

Chavez is such a dumb goober.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: Atreus21
Chavez is such a dumb goober.

Yeah, but until we stop funding that idiot with billions in oil revenue, he'll keep increasing his influence and pushing south america into left wing socialism......

 

[sandorski]

Hehe, he makes an interesting point about Immigration and Europe though. Kinda pointless in the grand scheme, but interesting.

 

[beyoku]

Ha Ha, kountry Karma. Why are their so many immigrants from the M.E. going to Europe?

 

[Jaskalas]

Chavez is aligned with Islamic Terrorism when you consider his blackmail of oil is directed at forcing Muslim immigrants down Europe?s throat. Europe has few other types of immigrants to speak of, and the loss of their society would be a great benefit to him as it isolates the US. Divide and conquer, so to speak.

If you don?t believe it is possible to ruin a nation from within ? you don?t know your history and you don?t know Rome. Europe and America face the same challenge of immigrants that destroyed a civilization and history is repeating itself.

 

[Genx87]

This guy is a bunch of hot air.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Chavez also does not sell much oil to Europe.

They have very few facilities to process his sour crude.

The majority of his oil is processed by US facilities.

But to the media and politicians, oil = oil

Maybe in Chavez's mind also.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: beyoku
Ha Ha, kountry Karma. Why are their so many immigrants from the M.E. going to Europe?

Because the muslim nations have some of the strictest immigration laws out there. Their dirty little secret which is one of the reasons the palenstine debacle has gone on for so long,

 

[BoomerD]

Maybe France needs to invade Venezuela and take over the oil industry there. :roll:

 

[jpeyton]

18 months detention? That's a little inhumane, don't you think?

 

[BoomerD]

Hell no. The US should start adopting stricter anti-illegal immigration policies. Maybe we should start treating the illegal Mexican immigrants the way their country treats the illegals they catch...

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Maybe France needs to invade Venezuela and take over the oil industry there. :roll:

Make sure they bring spare parts.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2199109&enterthread=y

 

[CanOWorms]

European authorities torture and murder immigrants and refugees. It's no wonder he is concerned about an anti-immigration law in a continent where many governments are trying to erect illegal concentration camps in the African desert. 18 months in a prison that makes Abu Ghraib look like a day care... We should all be concerned.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
18 months detention? That's a little inhumane, don't you think?

They don't view those they deem to be "undesirables" as humans.

 

[Mill]

La mayoria de ustedes saben que no me gusta Chavez. Hmm... la realidad es que me odio a Chavez. Pero bueno, esta vez estoy de acuerdo con su posicion. El tiene razon.

I loathe Chavez with every fiber of my being. Occasionally, however, a blind squirrel finds a nut. Europe's (and the United States') immigration policies are outdated, bigoted, unwieldy, and unrealistic.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: lupi
One of the few good reasons to get out of iraq soon; to go apply a little manifest destiny to the monroe doctrine.

Uh, the Monroe doctrine is about powers on other continents, especially European nations, creating footholds in the Americas. Chavez is the opposte of that.

Your post is, however, one more example upon the countless available of how the right is unfit to have any power, as it abuses it. You think it's ok to dictate who runs Venezuela.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Atreus21
Chavez is such a dumb goober.

You invite well-deserved ridicule with that post, but why bother.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Mill
La mayoria de ustedes saben que no me gusta Chavez. Hmm... la realidad es que me odio a Chavez. Pero bueno, esta vez estoy de acuerdo con su posicion. El tiene razon.

I loathe Chavez with every fiber of my being. Occasionally, however, a blind squirrel finds a nut. Europe's (and the United States') immigration policies are outdated, bigoted, unwieldy, and unrealistic.

Going by your first sentence, it sounds like you're the blind squirrel.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

It is true that Europe should remember that Latin America accepted millions of European immigrants escaping from poverty, war, and political issues. Trouble is this new immigration law isn't directed at Latin Americans, so WTF do Chavez and the other complaining Latin Americans care?