They warned me and said if I had 3 strikes they'd close my account or something. The thing is then I made it more discreet Whereas before I had buyer pays a 3% fee for using paypal, now I put buyer pays an extra insurance/handling fee if paying through paypal. So effectively, ebay won't shut me down because I don't exactly state the fee I'm charging...and it looks like an insurance/handling fee.
Ummm....this is still doing what you were doing before whether you are stating a percentage or not. You state clearly that you charge extra for using paypal and THAT is what is against the law and TOS. Sorry, but you still can get busted. Read this again:
Payment: Surcharges
Sellers may not charge eBay buyers an additional fee for their use of ordinary forms of payment, including acceptance of checks, money orders, electronic transfers or credit cards. Such costs should be built into the price of the item-this policy reduces the potential for confusion among bidders about the true cost of an item. Further, some forms of payment surcharges, such as credit card surcharges, are forbidden under the laws of many states, including California.
You are clearly breaking the law and the ebay user agreement.
I'll agree...you are getting screwed...but like in any market place you should adjust I'm not going to not accept paypal cause I clearly wont' get as many bids. THe way I have it, I still make the same amount of money, can take paypal, and I don't lose on fees
The paypal fee is so small I can't believe that people actually charge extra for it. Sellers should be happy and thankful that something like paypal is around (I know I am). They get their money fast and in a convenient way. No trips to the bank and no worrying if the money won't clear (ie. check). You even said yourself you get more bids, hence more money, by accepting paypal and that should be more then a good enough reason not to charge a fee. If anything, for the simple fact you are already getting more money just for having the convenience available. To charge a fee for something that provides so much to a seller is just flat out wrong on every level. I don't see the store you walk into to buy your grocieries charging you a fee for paying a certain way. I am sure you would be quite upset if they did too. These companies eat that fee as a way to be convenient to their customer who they want to come back and spend more money on their store.
I've been reported but I still do it...I've saved myself over a 1000 in the past year....to me it's worth it. I also jack the cost of shipping up too to cover my ebay fees. If they complain I do remind them that it was clearly stated in the shipment terms and also that it's the price you pay for dealing with someone with no negatives and over 400 transactions. I also haven't been busted by ebay again because now I say that the buyer pays an extra insurance/handling fee if going through paypal. Oh yeah, I also charge extra for insurance so it looks like my inflated shipping cost to cover ebay fees is in line with everyone else's.
I understand your thinking now. So basically you want everything for free. Despite the fact that ebay and paypal are providing a useful SERVICE to you and is letting you use their servers (which they need money to maintain), getting you more exposure, and more money. Why don't you just sell in the newsgroups? There are no fees there. Oh, that's right, newsgroups suck and you can't get **** for money. Hmmm....interesting.
Listen, I am not saying that sellers should have to pay for everything. In fact, I believe that it should be an equal split for the seller and the buyer. Ebay and paypal are just as convenient for both parties. I would have no problem with an equal split of fees, etc.