charges dropped in the case of the two 13 year old boys for slapping girls butts in school

OutHouse

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it should not have gotten this far. the DA should pay back the McMinnville citizens out of his own pocket what it cost to take this to trial.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293849,00.html

McMINNVILLE, Ore. ? Two 13-year-old boys accused of slapping girls' bottoms and poking or cupping girls' breasts at school apologized on Monday as a judge dismissed charges against the two, ending a six-month case that drew national attention.

The charges triggered a debate over whether such behavior in school should be considered criminal.

Four girls listed as victims by the prosecutors had asked the judge to drop the charges against Cory Mashburn and Ryan Cornelison.

Yamhill County Judge John Collins did so on Monday, saying it was in the "interest of justice."

A number of young girls were in the courtroom during the hearing. They included at least some of the four who asked that the charges be dropped, attorneys said.

During the brief hearing, the two boys faced the girls and apologized.

"I never intended to hurt you in any way," Mashburn said.

Cornelison told the girls: "I hope we can still be friends."

The News-Register newspaper of McMinnville reported that a "civil compromise" reached by prosecutors and the defense called for both boys to apologize, to pay each of the four girls $250 and to complete a "boundaries education" program.

Prosecutors and defense attorneys said they could not comment on the newspaper report or release details of the settlement because they are confidential.

Pressure has been building on prosecutors to drop the charges, with critics saying they had blown the matter out of proportion and were overzealous.

The boys, apparently inspired by the movie "Jackass," were accused in police reports of swatting girls on the bottom in a school corridor, grabbing girls' breasts on at least two occasions, teaming up to "dry hump" girls, poking girls' breasts and engaging in what's known as "party boy" dancing mimicking sexual intercourse.

They were originally charged with felony and misdemeanor sex abuse charges in February. Amid growing public opposition to sending the boys to prison and putting them on a sex offenders' registry, prosecutors dropped the felony sex abuse charges and added misdemeanor harassment charges, then later dropped all sex abuse charges, leaving only the harassment counts.

The judge dismissed the final charges following negotiations between prosecutors and the defense, and discussions with the four girls about whether they wanted the case dismissed.
 

MustISO

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Jail time would have been much too harsh but they should be punished. That is not the way kids should be acting.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: MustISO
Jail time would have been much too harsh but they should be punished. That is not the way kids should be acting.

totally agree, if my boy did that he would definatly be getting it from me, them mom would get a piece of him too. that behavior is not tolerated. however for the DA to bring these kids up on felony charges and sex offenders status was totally wrong.

 

compuwiz1

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Isn't being 13 and slapping butts in school kind of a right of passage? :)
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: MustISO
Jail time would have been much too harsh but they should be punished. That is not the way kids should be acting.

:thumbsup:

Totally agree.
 

jonks

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I bet these boys will be very sure to ask for permission, hell, videotape permission and get a written release, before they touch a girl again. I think a lesser punishment could have brought about this result. At least they won't be registered sex offenders. Yikes!
 

Kadarin

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The DA in this case needs to face some kind of punishment for being overzealous.
 

KAZANI

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Originally posted by: Citrix
it should not have gotten this far. the DA should pay back the McMinnville citizens out of his own pocket what it cost to take this to trial.

Well *excuse* those folks who still believe in outdated principles such as dignity and immaculacy and wasted your precious tax money trying to defend them. Do you prefer the compensation to come in the form of a Medal of Lewdness for the little f***s or maybe the funding of a new whoring course for the rest of the girls in the school?

Just bringing up the money issue paints your obvious disregard for a child's right to purity in an even more vile light.
 

DangerAardvark

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Originally posted by: KAZANI
Originally posted by: Citrix
it should not have gotten this far. the DA should pay back the McMinnville citizens out of his own pocket what it cost to take this to trial.

Well *excuse* those folks who still believe in outdated principles such as dignity and immaculacy and wasted your precious tax money trying to defend them. Do you prefer the compensation to come in the form of a Medal of Lewdness for the little f***s or maybe the funding of a new whoring course for the rest of the girls in the school?

Just bringing up the money issue paints your obvious disregard for a child's right to purity in an even more vile light.

"Right to purity" is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. You don't get to just make up rights, dickwad.
 

KAZANI

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Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
"Right to purity" is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. You don't get to just make up rights, dickwad.

It is not stupid, it's just unheard of in the parallel porn-universe in which you choose to confine your existence.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: Citrix
it should not have gotten this far. the DA should pay back the McMinnville citizens out of his own pocket what it cost to take this to trial.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293849,00.html

McMINNVILLE, Ore. ? Two 13-year-old boys accused of slapping girls' bottoms and poking or cupping girls' breasts at school apologized on Monday as a judge dismissed charges against the two, ending a six-month case that drew national attention.

The charges triggered a debate over whether such behavior in school should be considered criminal.

Four girls listed as victims by the prosecutors had asked the judge to drop the charges against Cory Mashburn and Ryan Cornelison.

Yamhill County Judge John Collins did so on Monday, saying it was in the "interest of justice."

A number of young girls were in the courtroom during the hearing. They included at least some of the four who asked that the charges be dropped, attorneys said.

During the brief hearing, the two boys faced the girls and apologized.

"I never intended to hurt you in any way," Mashburn said.

Cornelison told the girls: "I hope we can still be friends."

The News-Register newspaper of McMinnville reported that a "civil compromise" reached by prosecutors and the defense called for both boys to apologize, to pay each of the four girls $250 and to complete a "boundaries education" program.

Prosecutors and defense attorneys said they could not comment on the newspaper report or release details of the settlement because they are confidential.

Pressure has been building on prosecutors to drop the charges, with critics saying they had blown the matter out of proportion and were overzealous.

The boys, apparently inspired by the movie "Jackass," were accused in police reports of swatting girls on the bottom in a school corridor, grabbing girls' breasts on at least two occasions, teaming up to "dry hump" girls, poking girls' breasts and engaging in what's known as "party boy" dancing mimicking sexual intercourse.

They were originally charged with felony and misdemeanor sex abuse charges in February. Amid growing public opposition to sending the boys to prison and putting them on a sex offenders' registry, prosecutors dropped the felony sex abuse charges and added misdemeanor harassment charges, then later dropped all sex abuse charges, leaving only the harassment counts.

The judge dismissed the final charges following negotiations between prosecutors and the defense, and discussions with the four girls about whether they wanted the case dismissed.

how the fvck does this goto court if all 4 "victims" want the charges dropped?!
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: KAZANI
Originally posted by: Citrix
it should not have gotten this far. the DA should pay back the McMinnville citizens out of his own pocket what it cost to take this to trial.

Well *excuse* those folks who still believe in outdated principles such as dignity and immaculacy and wasted your precious tax money trying to defend them. Do you prefer the compensation to come in the form of a Medal of Lewdness for the little f***s or maybe the funding of a new whoring course for the rest of the girls in the school?

Just bringing up the money issue paints your obvious disregard for a child's right to purity in an even more vile light.

Whoa champ. As a child or a teenager you are constantly having your dignity challenged and being humiliated. I'm not trying to defend these boys what they did was way over the line, but criminal charges? That's a bridge too far.

Hopefully this girl's parents have taught her something as well, a right cross. Women in our society need to be "on guard" and be able to stick up for themselves. This isn't the last time this girl have a guy "stretch" the rules of decency, that's a sad fact.
 

Triumph

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: MustISO
Jail time would have been much too harsh but they should be punished. That is not the way kids should be acting.

totally agree, if my boy did that he would definatly be getting it from me, them mom would get a piece of him too. that behavior is not tolerated. however for the DA to bring these kids up on felony charges and sex offenders status was totally wrong.

Exactly, and that's the way it should be, the parents should be disciplining their children, not the state. Unfortunately, alot of parents don't do their jobs, so....
 

piasabird

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just line all the girls up with paddles and make the boys crawl past them on their knees while the girls get to paddle them. They will be cured in one day. What is right for the goose is right for the gander.

Seems like the principal could have solved this problem by having a conference or a meeting with the parties involved instead of going right to pressing charges. Dont these parents teach their kids anything?

The worst part is that is is natural for kids this age to be curious about what is right and wrong when it comes to girl and boy behavour. They are just getting to a point when they know boys and girls are different, but they dont know how to handle it and where the boundaries are. Instead of the school system giving sex ed classes, they need a class on the proper behaviour between girls and boys. If you do not teach boys to respect girls, and not hit them or fondle them, then they dont know what they are suppose to do or where their boundaries are. There is still a need to instruct young adults on what is acceptable behavour.

If anything maybe this points a need for some instruction about what is acceptable behavour on the first day of school, or at some point in every school year. We teach this to all the adults at work to adults who are suppose to know better. So I guess we can teach a class like this to students. Instead of teaching kids how to have sex, maybe we need to teach them to respect members of the opposite sex, and each other as well as themselves.
 

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Originally posted by: ayabe

Whoa champ. As a child or a teenager you are constantly having your dignity challenged and being humiliated. I'm not trying to defend these boys what they did was way over the line, but criminal charges? That's a bridge too far.

Hopefully this girl's parents have taught her something as well, a right cross. Women in our society need to be "on guard" and be able to stick up for themselves. This isn't the last time this girl have a guy "stretch" the rules of decency, that's a sad fact.

Yeah, whatever happened to slapping boys who did inappropriate things?
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: KAZANI
Originally posted by: Citrix
it should not have gotten this far. the DA should pay back the McMinnville citizens out of his own pocket what it cost to take this to trial.

Well *excuse* those folks who still believe in outdated principles such as dignity and immaculacy and wasted your precious tax money trying to defend them. Do you prefer the compensation to come in the form of a Medal of Lewdness for the little f***s or maybe the funding of a new whoring course for the rest of the girls in the school?

Just bringing up the money issue paints your obvious disregard for a child's right to purity in an even more vile light.

LOL this is the funniest thing i have read in P&N in a long time.
 

yowolabi

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Originally posted by: KAZANI
Originally posted by: Citrix
it should not have gotten this far. the DA should pay back the McMinnville citizens out of his own pocket what it cost to take this to trial.

Well *excuse* those folks who still believe in outdated principles such as dignity and immaculacy and wasted your precious tax money trying to defend them. Do you prefer the compensation to come in the form of a Medal of Lewdness for the little f***s or maybe the funding of a new whoring course for the rest of the girls in the school?

Just bringing up the money issue paints your obvious disregard for a child's right to purity in an even more vile light.

The earlier reports of this case had the girls saying that they slapped boys on the butt too, and that it's "like a handshake" in their school. The boys were arrested, not by a complaint from a girl, but on the authority of a teacher who witnessed it.

I'm sure in your mythical world these 13 year old girls had never heard of sex and were ambushed, but in the reality many of them enjoyed, encouraged, and reciprocated these behaviors. Girls are just as sexual as boys in high school, and in fact usually have sex at an earlier age with an older boy. There's a reason why all the girls wanted the charges dropped. They never felt violated.
 

KAZANI

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Originally posted by: yowolabi
The earlier reports of this case had the girls saying that they slapped boys on the butt too, and that it's "like a handshake" in their school. The boys were arrested, not by a complaint from a girl, but on the authority of a teacher who witnessed it.

I'm sure in your mythical world these 13 year old girls had never heard of sex and were ambushed, but in the reality many of them enjoyed, encouraged, and reciprocated these behaviors. Girls are just as sexual as boys in high school, and in fact usually have sex at an earlier age with an older boy. There's a reason why all the girls wanted the charges dropped. They never felt violated.

First of all there where 5 girls mentioned in the original charges. Which means not ALL where the "easy girls" you are insinuating here. Furthermore, the attacks took place in the hallway as a random fondlespree and officers only questioned a few of the girls. Which means more where involved and probably some were too INTIMIDATED to speak against the (alleged) mainstream.

I bet you rejoice over the whoring education young girls in public schools receive by their male classmates who believe that groping their intimate parts is a right granted by nature. But some people don't subscribe to this jackass and smut line of thought and don't go about indulging in the classroom orgies people like you dream of in their filthy fantasies. This is something that you and the rest of the porn crazed crowd need to understand. So stop making the assumption that EVERY girl in this wretched world will turn into a teen slut begging for a spank and keep your damned hands off them! :|


 

KAZANI

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: KAZANI
Well *excuse* those folks who still believe in outdated principles such as dignity and immaculacy and wasted your precious tax money trying to defend them. Do you prefer the compensation to come in the form of a Medal of Lewdness for the little f***s or maybe the funding of a new whoring course for the rest of the girls in the school?

Just bringing up the money issue paints your obvious disregard for a child's right to purity in an even more vile light.

LOL this is the funniest thing i have read in P&N in a long time.


You do the laughing and rely on your 14000+ post count do the argument for you. Poor strategy IMO.
 

rpanic

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Originally posted by: KAZANI
Originally posted by: yowolabi
The earlier reports of this case had the girls saying that they slapped boys on the butt too, and that it's "like a handshake" in their school. The boys were arrested, not by a complaint from a girl, but on the authority of a teacher who witnessed it.

I'm sure in your mythical world these 13 year old girls had never heard of sex and were ambushed, but in the reality many of them enjoyed, encouraged, and reciprocated these behaviors. Girls are just as sexual as boys in high school, and in fact usually have sex at an earlier age with an older boy. There's a reason why all the girls wanted the charges dropped. They never felt violated.

First of all there where 5 girls mentioned in the original charges. Which means not ALL where the "easy girls" you are insinuating here. Furthermore, the attacks took place in the hallway as a random fondlespree and officers only questioned a few of the girls. Which means more where involved and probably some were too INTIMIDATED to speak against the (alleged) mainstream.

I bet you rejoice over the whoring education young girls in public schools receive by their male classmates who believe that groping their intimate parts is a right granted by nature. But some people don't subscribe to this jackass and smut line of thought and don't go about indulging in the classroom orgies people like you dream of in their filthy fantasies. This is something that you and the rest of the porn crazed crowd need to understand. So stop making the assumption that EVERY girl in this wretched world will turn into a teen slut begging for a spank and keep your damned hands off them! :|

Your turning me on talking like that. Don?t shatter the fond memories of fantasies that got me through high school.

"teen slut begging for a spank" isn't that a porn
 
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Originally posted by: KAZANI
Originally posted by: yowolabi
The earlier reports of this case had the girls saying that they slapped boys on the butt too, and that it's "like a handshake" in their school. The boys were arrested, not by a complaint from a girl, but on the authority of a teacher who witnessed it.

I'm sure in your mythical world these 13 year old girls had never heard of sex and were ambushed, but in the reality many of them enjoyed, encouraged, and reciprocated these behaviors. Girls are just as sexual as boys in high school, and in fact usually have sex at an earlier age with an older boy. There's a reason why all the girls wanted the charges dropped. They never felt violated.

First of all there where 5 girls mentioned in the original charges. Which means not ALL where the "easy girls" you are insinuating here. Furthermore, the attacks took place in the hallway as a random fondlespree and officers only questioned a few of the girls. Which means more where involved and probably some were too INTIMIDATED to speak against the (alleged) mainstream.

I bet you rejoice over the whoring education young girls in public schools receive by their male classmates who believe that groping their intimate parts is a right granted by nature. But some people don't subscribe to this jackass and smut line of thought and don't go about indulging in the classroom orgies people like you dream of in their filthy fantasies. This is something that you and the rest of the porn crazed crowd need to understand. So stop making the assumption that EVERY girl in this wretched world will turn into a teen slut begging for a spank and keep your damned hands off them! :|

I love how you refer to 13 year old girls as whores and sluts, you don't even realize that that makes YOU the one who lack respect for the opposite gender.

I don't think this is a big deal, it's the beginning of puberty and this form of play is just a natural reaction and very innocent.