Changing a toddler's diaper on the airliner's seat!!!!

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dabuddha

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Ya screaming kid is one thing. If they're doing just a bit on landing or whatever that's kinda just how it works and everyone should deal with it. If they scream the entire flight then the kid or your parenting is probably just a piece of shit. But changing a diaper on a seat is a willful act of negligence for the consideration of others. F that shit and F you for being a shitty douchebag parent and traveler.

You're either not a parent or an incompetent one.
 

JJ650

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Ya screaming kid is one thing. If they're doing just a bit on landing or whatever that's kinda just how it works and everyone should deal with it. If they scream the entire flight then the kid or your parenting is probably just a piece of shit. But changing a diaper on a seat is a willful act of negligence for the consideration of others. F that shit and F you for being a shitty douchebag parent and traveler.


A screaming child does not always equate bad parenting.
I consider myself a good parent and do my best effort to contain my child (she's a little over 2 yr old) from outburst or try to head off a temper tantrum, but a plane is real fucking difficult for a child to deal with. They do not know how to clear their ears (and you can't do it for them), it's noisy, cramped and is VERY different for them to deal with.
I think that planes are not for small children, but sometimes you might not be able to avoid a situation where you have to travel with one.
 

TheAdvocate

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I don't get why people bring toddlers on a plane. DRIVE.

I have a rule, if it's over 8 hours, i fly. Sorry if that offends you, but driving from NY to LA isn't really an option.

Ya screaming kid is one thing. If they're doing just a bit on landing or whatever that's kinda just how it works and everyone should deal with it. If they scream the entire flight then the kid or your parenting is probably just a piece of shit. But changing a diaper on a seat is a willful act of negligence for the consideration of others. F that shit and F you for being a shitty douchebag parent and traveler.

Blatantly obvious that you do not have children. That is exactly what people who do not have children say, and then quickly realize how effing stupid it was when they later have them. Sometimes, they just cry. Drives me up a wall when they do it, but I can tell you as a father of 2, that sometimes, it just happens. Best thing you can do is try to calm/distract them, but there is absolutely no sure fire cure for it, and it sucks balls when pricks like you stare at us. We know. We hate it too. Short of a frontal lobotomy, heavy sedation, or just knocking them unconscious, they aren't stopping.

Also, changing a diaper on the seat is perfectly understandable. The bathroom is way too small on a plane, and will only scare the child more, making the task impossible. Any parent with any experience can change a diaper there and keep the seat, etc clean. It's not that hard.

Also, get over your kid phobias, gheez. You and everyone else complaining sound so childish and soft it's ridiculous. It's poo. Wash your hands. Move on. It's not like you probably aren't picking your nose or scabs/scratching your ass/playing pocket pool constantly. You are probably nastier than the kid.
 

blackdogdeek

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i'm going to assume the guy isn't the usual caregiver for the kid (the mother probably is) and in addition is flying with her by himself for the first time.

imho, changing the kid's diaper on the seat sounds more to me like cluelessness than malice.
 

LegendKiller

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This thread is humorous, mainly from the self-righteous asses on each side.

I'm a 6'2" and my wife is 6'. My son will likely be 6'2"+, right now he's in the 99th percentile and about 2" ahead of his 6'6" uncle at the same age. At 2 he'll likely be over 37" tall at the current percentile he's in. To think that me AND him will fit in an airplane bathroom is crazy.

Kids are kids, sometimes you just have to adjust for reality. I paid my fare and overall, the issue is of short period and limited scope. I am a person who is very respectful of others, but practicality stands in the way. I've had friends change kids on a restaurant bench, BFD. They were respectful and covered the action up, nobody else even noticed.

Airplanes have their own issues anyway. Half the time the recycled air smells horrible, especially if somebody has the runs. It's just poop.

This reminds me of the idiocy against nursing in public. I've seen several people give my wife evil looks.

People need to get over themselves. A little understanding goes a long way. We were all kids once and I am sure nobody here is 100% perfect and respectful of everybody 100% of the time.
 
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TheNinja

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I should just stay out of this thread, there is way too much vitriol. But what I'm seeing is alot of internet bravado here. And alot of immaturity and ignorance. Any of you twenty something, recent college grads (yeah I'm stereotyping) who believe the world revolves around you still, will wake up some day. Yeah, what the guy did was rude. But the lack of empathy here is astounding. They guy may already be horrified at what was a terrible gamble, decision-wise for he and his family. Maybe he said F it, these people already hate me and decided to do it, lol. There is just way too much judgment here and no reasoning from people who appear NOT to have children. And those of you who only see the world in ways in how it specifically impacts you need to grow up.

Exactly. I was arguing in defense of the parent (albeit a little more agressively than I actually though). However, people in general just need to chill out. All of us who take kids of planes HATE it. It is horrible to prepare, go through security, try to keep them happy, change diapers, etc. It's terrible. But it is necessary sometimes instead of a 30 hour car ride.

So in general, just live with 5 minutes of inconvenience of a diaper change...or live with 2 hours of a crying kid b/c his/her ears hurt from flying. In the grand scheme of life, it isn't THAT huge of a deal really so don't get so pissed off about it, the parents likely hate it 10x worse than you do.