Changed Proc need help!!!

[dynasty]

I changed my processor out from an AMD 2100+ to an AMD 2500+. When I got done installing I booted up my computer but my computer is staying at the boot up and I'm getting a message saying "Warning !! CPU have been changed" how do I get this message off and how do I change the FSB to 400mhz so I can get 3200 speeds. Thanks

 

[mechBgon]

What brand and model of motherboard are you using?

 

[dynasty]

ASUS A7N8X DELUXE

 

[infinite012]

Change the "Halt On" setting to something that will make it stop yelling at you.

It's in the very first BIOS page.

 

[dynasty]

Change the hault on setting. Change it to what. And how do I change the FSB to 400mhz so I can get 3200 speeds? Thanks

 

[mechBgon]

Ok, gotcha When you see the POST screen, press the Delete key to get into the BIOS menus, then use the arrow keys to go to the Advanced menu. If you have the manual, this is on page 51.

On the Advanced menu, go down to Advanced Chipset Features and it opens up the menu shown on page 55.

A word of warning at this point: I'm assuming you have PC2700 or PC3200 memory. The 2500+ needs at least PC2700 to run properly. A strong, high-quality power supply in the 350W range is a good idea too, if you plan to OC like a madman.

Start out by setting System Performance and Memory Timing to User Defined, and set CPU Interface to Aggressive. If you have a microphone around, plug it into the MIC port on the rear of the system and say "GRRRRRR!!!!" into it a few times, to give the system the right idea.

Next, set Memory Frequency to 100%. This is always the right thing to do, even if your RAM could run faster... you don't want your RAM running out-of-step with your CPU, it reduces system performance and maybe stability too. I suggest going down to DDR Reference Voltage near the bottom (scroll down) and set that to 2.7, and set AGP Frequency to 66 too.

Now set CPU External Frequency (MHz) to 166, and hit the Escape key until you're back to the top-level menu. Go over to the Exit menu, and down to Save Settings, then hit Enter, and then up to Exit & Save Settings. This reduces the risk of a corruption.

Once you've ensured that the system is stable at its stock speed, then you can goof around with raising the FSB speed and/or changing the CPU's multiplier to see how much you can wring out of your new 2500+ and your RAM. Is your mobo a revision-2.0 version or the older revision-1.xx model?

 

[dynasty]

My motherboard is the revision 2. Did it do anything to change hault on to no errors? Thanks alot

 

[dynasty]

Mech hey thanks alot. I have one quick question. When I built my computer I had a friend do the overclocking stuff for me, where can I find the fsb and all that? What would you recommend I set it at? I would like to get 3200 speeds. I have crucial 512 2700. Thanks

 

[mechBgon]

When did you buy the Crucial PC2700 and is it 512Mb module(s)? If it's their 512Mb module(s) and you got it late last year / early this year, brace for problems... there was a batch that didn't like nForce2 boards and they would run PC2100 speed great, but didn't like PC2700 speed on nForce2 for some reason. If you have those ones, and you got them straight from Crucial, you can RMA them and buy up to PC3200.

I might end up eating my words, of course If your modules want to run PC3200, then that's awesome. To run the memory at PC3200 speeds, you would set your CPU External Frequency (MHz) to 200. Since your memory is set to run at 100% of FSB speed, it will follow suit and run at 200MHz (= DDR400 or PC3200).

However, your CPU is probably not going to want to make that jump, so you would have to drop its multiplier down below its stock 11 setting. It's made to run at 166 x 11 = 1833MHz, so if you bump it straight to 200 x 11, that's 2200MHz and it may or may not do it... probably excellent cooling and a voltage bump would give you a shot at it.

I haven't tried OC'ing my 2500+ and I'm not sure what multipliers the A7N8X-Deluxe will allow you to use on it. Have fun, anyway

 

[Chumpman]

Originally posted by: mechBgon
If you have a microphone around, plug it into the MIC port on the rear of the system and say "GRRRRRR!!!!" into it a few times, to give the system the right idea.

haha

 

[dynasty]

Hey thanks alot mech for the help. I put arctic silver 3 on my processor but I can't see a difference. I just used the regular therm paste on my 2100+ and got the exact same temps. Does it just take a few hours of use to make the stuff take effect? Thanks

 

[dynasty]

When I started to play cs I just got this black screen. I think I may need to lower it some. What settings do i need to lower? Thanks

 

[mechBgon]

Uh oh :Q Did you use all the settings I mentioned, including the 2.7 volts for the DDR Reference Voltage? If so, I'm going to guess that you've got the batch of Crucial PC2700 that dislikes running at PC2700 speeds on nForce2 Your main course of action is to RMA the memory to Crucial. An alternative would be to downclock the memory and CPU to 133MHz and then raise the CPU's multiplier to bring it back up to approximately its intended speed (if the mobo permits). A 133 x 14 would give you 1862MHz, and you would be losing about 5-7% performance due to the lower memory/FSB speed compared to the intended 166 x 11 setup.

 

[dynasty]

no i didn't change it to 2.7v i forgot, . I'll go do that.

 

[dynasty]

Just changed the settings. Hey thanks for your help man I couldn't have done it without you. Also I put arctic silver 3 on the processor and am getting the same temps from my 2100 oc to 2700. CPU 44C MB 34C. Will it take a few hours of use to make the Arcitc Silver start to work? And did changing the hault on setting to no errors, is that alright? Thanks

 

[mechBgon]

That all sounds good and I think your temperature is fine, my 2500+ is around 45C last I checked.

 

[dynasty]

My computer was running unstable at 200mhz memory so I lowered it to 189 and it is running stable for now. Is that ok?

 

[mechBgon]

Your memory and CPU are both running 189? You don't want to run the memory different than the CPU, remember... If you can get them both up to 189, that's 2086MHz on the CPU, about a 14% overclock. Not spectacular, but not bad for a first shot. You might bump your CPU voltage by 0.1 volt and see if that opens up the full 200MHz, but remember, your RAM's only rated for 166.

 

[dynasty]

Will it hurt my computer to run my memory frequency at 189? I just changed the memory frequency. What do I need to do now?

 

[dynasty]

Alright I changed it. CPU is at 195mhz now and on bootup it says that memory frequency is at 194. Is that alright? How come memory is always 1 mhz lower than cpu? Thanks

 

[mechBgon]

As long as the memory's set to run at 100% of the FSB speed, that's what you want. Overclocking can hurt stuff, yes, and if you want to be conservative, then sticking to a 0.1-volt boost on the CPU and the memory is probably going to keep you out of the danger zone. I mean, how long do we want our hardware to last? A couple years and we're all looking for the next hot upgrade anyway

Some people pick up upper-end memory and get over 220MHz FSB/memory on nForce2, but considering you have what I'd call good-quality mainstream memory instead of "botique" memory, 195 is sounding pretty good. Have fun

 

[dynasty]

Hey thanks for your help. On my amd 2100 oc'ed it was 2.13 now i'm getting 2.15ghz. Is it actually faster than what it shows? Or did I just waste 80 bux for no reason? And will I see a difference in games? Thanks

 

[dynasty]

Mech after playin around with it to get it stable it is at 2.17ghz now. What is the CPU frequency in the bios actually? And why does it change the memory frequency to. I mean is it actually fsb? Also Why does it read AMD Athlon XP 3200 when I don't have 3200 speeds running? What's making it say 3200 when I'm not running 2.2ghz. And what type of ram would you recommend. Thanks and do you have aim? Thanks

 

[Jmman]

I am the only one that freaked out the first time their new Asus mobo started talking to them......

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: dynasty
Mech after playin around with it to get it stable it is at 2.17ghz now. What is the CPU frequency in the bios actually? And why does it change the memory frequency to. I mean is it actually fsb? Also Why does it read AMD Athlon XP 3200 when I don't have 3200 speeds running? What's making it say 3200 when I'm not running 2.2ghz. And what type of ram would you recommend. Thanks and do you have aim? Thanks

You've successfully fooled your system into thinking it's got a $450 CPU in it The FSB is a double-data-rate bus, so if the base speed is 200MHz then that equates to a 400MHz DDR bus. The actual frequency is still 200MHz. It really doesn't matter which way you choose to name it.

If you're looking for even more of an overclock then probably Corsair XMS 3200LL or XMS 3500C2 would be smart picks. I use the less-expensive XMS 3200C2, which isn't guaranteed to hit as tight of timings.

I don't have AIM, sorry