Change you can believe in....NFL commish stumping for OT rule change

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/fbn_nfl_...DeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDbmZsY2hpZWZmYXZv

Proposed plan is if you win the toss and kick a field goal, the other team gets a chance to match it. So it's TD or bust.

Pertinent info: "Statistics examined by the committee showed that since 1994, teams winning the coin toss win the game 59.8 percent of the time. The team that loses the toss wins the game 38.5 percent in that 15-year span, or since kickoffs were moved back 5 yards to the 30."

Discuss....

 

[rcpratt]

It's an improvement. I'd still prefer a modified version of the college rules.

 

[JEDI]

It's an improvement. I'd still prefer a modified version of the college rules.

once a knee hits the ground, even w/o opponent contact, all play stops?!

you really want that in the NFL?

for christs sake, WHY???

 

[rcpratt]

once a knee hits the ground, even w/o opponent contact, all play stops?!

you really want that in the NFL?

for christs sake, WHY???

Whoa now, just the overtime rule. I guess I shouldn't have an s at the end of rules.

 

[fatpat268]

So... first team to score 6 points? Sounds like a good idea.

 

[MixMasterTang]

Do 1.7% of games actually end in a tie? I find that hard to believe.

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

So... first team to score 6 points? Sounds like a good idea.

Based on the limited info in the article it looks like the team that loses the toss gets a series to match the field goal. However if they don't score, the other team still wins by 3 points.

If the team kicks a field and ties the score again, it becomes next score wins, like it is now.

 

[MixMasterTang]

Do 1.7% of games actually end in a tie? I find that hard to believe.

Well there has been 4 games in the last 20 years that have been ties.

Philadelphia Eagles 10-10 Baltimore Ravens Memorial Stadium,
Baltimore November 16, 1997
New York Giants 7-7 Washington Redskins Jack Kent Cooke Stadium,
Landover, Maryland November 23, 1997
Atlanta Falcons 34-34 Pittsburgh Steelers Heinz Field,
Pittsburgh November 10, 2002
Philadelphia Eagles 13-13 Cincinnati Bengals Paul Brown Stadium,
Cincinnati November 16, 2008

So I guess I proved myself wrong if there have only been 241 overtime games in 20 years (12 or so per year).

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Do 1.7% of games actually end in a tie? I find that hard to believe.

1.7% of games that go into overtime, not 1.7% of all games.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

be aware that this is ONLY for playoff games. Regular season will still be sudden death.

 

[silverpig]

It's an improvement. I'd still prefer a modified version of the college rules.

We have something similar in the CFL and I hate it. There is a huge advantage to the team going second.

If the first team gets a TD, then the second team will be playing 4-down football all the way in OT, and wouldn't ever consider a FG. This is something they will do only because they have the knowledge of what the first team did.

My preference: just keep playing regular football from the exact spot and conditions that occurred when time hit 00:00, with sudden death. If it's 2nd and 8 from the 50, then it's 2nd and 8 from the 50. If it's 4th and goal, then it's 4th and goal. That way, the only advantage that occurs is the one that the teams earned/lost during the course of the game.

In the playoffs, the clock can just sit at 00:00 until someone scores. In the regular season, you can just re-set it to 10:00 (or whatever) and play regular football until there's a winner or time runs out.

 

[fatpat268]

Based on the limited info in the article it looks like the team that loses the toss gets a series to match the field goal. However if they don't score, the other team still wins by 3 points.

If the team kicks a field and ties the score again, it becomes next score wins, like it is now.

Meh, that just sounds lame then. At that rate, it essentially is a modified version of college overtime

My preference: just keep playing regular football from the exact spot and conditions that occurred when time hit 00:00, with sudden death. If it's 2nd and 8 from the 50, then it's 2nd and 8 from the 50. If it's 4th and goal, then it's 4th and goal. That way, the only advantage that occurs is the one that the teams earned/lost during the course of the game.

In the playoffs, the clock can just sit at 00:00 until someone scores. In the regular season, you can just re-set it to 10:00 (or whatever) and play regular football until there's a winner or time runs out.

Then, you eliminate the need for timeouts and clock management.

 

[Miramonti]

20% is a HUGE statistical advantage for a team, simply based on success of a coin toss. I'm in favor of a change.

 

[Udgnim]

if this goes through, a lot of field goal kickers are going to shit themselves lol

 

[Brainonska511]

We have something similar in the CFL and I hate it. There is a huge advantage to the team going second.

If the first team gets a TD, then the second team will be playing 4-down football all the way in OT, and wouldn't ever consider a FG. This is something they will do only because they have the knowledge of what the first team did.

My preference: just keep playing regular football from the exact spot and conditions that occurred when time hit 00:00, with sudden death. If it's 2nd and 8 from the 50, then it's 2nd and 8 from the 50. If it's 4th and goal, then it's 4th and goal. That way, the only advantage that occurs is the one that the teams earned/lost during the course of the game.

In the playoffs, the clock can just sit at 00:00 until someone scores. In the regular season, you can just re-set it to 10:00 (or whatever) and play regular football until there's a winner or time runs out.

What about just letting them play an extra x number of minutes and go by the score at the end of that?

 

[bommy261]

20% advantage is absolutely insane. especially in a professional sports league where millions are spent just to get a little bit of an advantage. I always hated how they do overtime in playoffs, they need to change it.

 

[Hacp]

How would having the team who wins the toss start at the 1 yard line change the statistics?

 

[lupi]

The only thing stupider than college OT rules is someone wanting to change NFL OT rules. If you're team sucks in 2 of the three phases of the game then you're not good enough to win anyways.

 

[TwiceOver]

10 min quarter and then tie. Why do they come up with stupid shit like this.

"There will be a modification to the overtime rules only if it is a night game and the home team's on field player numbers add up to an even number on the third play of the second quarter, and then only if the away team's punt returner is left handed and scratches his nuts with his right hand."

 

[rcpratt]

The only thing stupider than college OT rules is someone wanting to change NFL OT rules. If you're team sucks in 2 of the three phases of the game then you're not good enough to win anyways.

You think NFL OT rules are better than college OT rules? Really?

 

[rudder]

We have something similar in the CFL and I hate it. There is a huge advantage to the team going second.

If the first team gets a TD, then the second team will be playing 4-down football all the way in OT, and wouldn't ever consider a FG. This is something they will do only because they have the knowledge of what the first team did.

My preference: just keep playing regular football from the exact spot and conditions that occurred when time hit 00:00, with sudden death. If it's 2nd and 8 from the 50, then it's 2nd and 8 from the 50. If it's 4th and goal, then it's 4th and goal. That way, the only advantage that occurs is the one that the teams earned/lost during the course of the game.

In the playoffs, the clock can just sit at 00:00 until someone scores. In the regular season, you can just re-set it to 10:00 (or whatever) and play regular football until there's a winner or time runs out.

That would give the team with the ball an unfair advantage. They could simply take their time and not have to worry about no-huddle offenses and such. 20 seconds to go 80 years... no big deal we have time. Peyton Manning's excitement stock would seriously drop in value.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

good, i hate the current rule. all teams do is get into FG range and then kick the ball FTW.

 

[M0oG0oGaiPan]

1.7% of games that go into overtime, not 1.7% of all games.

Why wouldn't it be 1.7% of all games? Don't you have to go into an overtime period before the game can end in a tie?

 

[JDub02]

i thought he might introduce a rule to crack down on criminals ... but then half the NFL would be fired.

the big question is will roethlisberger be in jail for next season?

 

[GlacierFreeze]

What about just letting them play an extra x number of minutes and go by the score at the end of that?

That's dumb. You'd be giving the advantage to team's with a strong run game. Disadvantage to teams that rely on passing.