Chances of major OC on low-end Nehalem?

[quadomatic]

I was looking at the Nehalem article on Wikipedia and saw that a 1/2 cache processor on the Nehalem architecture is planned, named 'Havendale'. It seems like its similar to the E4xxx line in relation to the E6xxx line.

Does anyone think it will be likely that this line of processors will be highly overclockable, as the E4xxx and E2xxx lines are?

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: quadomatic
I was looking at the Nehalem article on Wikipedia and saw that a 1/2 cache processor on the Nehalem architecture is planned, named 'Havendale'. It seems like its similar to the E4xxx line in relation to the E6xxx line.

Does anyone think it will be likely that this line of processors will be highly overclockable, as the E4xxx and E2xxx lines are?

people are bound by NDA. Non disclouser agreements.

So you will not know this answer until someone ruins it.


Meaning there can be or there might not be. The only ones who know is the ones under NDA. And so far none of them have said anything.

 

[quadomatic]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: quadomatic
I was looking at the Nehalem article on Wikipedia and saw that a 1/2 cache processor on the Nehalem architecture is planned, named 'Havendale'. It seems like its similar to the E4xxx line in relation to the E6xxx line.

Does anyone think it will be likely that this line of processors will be highly overclockable, as the E4xxx and E2xxx lines are?

people are bound by NDA. Non disclouser agreements.

So you will not know this answer until someone ruins it.


Meaning there can be or there might not be. The only ones who know is the ones under NDA. And so far none of them have said anything.

That's too bad. But, judging by the fact that pretty much every line of Intel processors has had a cheap alternative that is easy to overclock a whole lot since the Pentium D (correct me if I'm wrong of course) then I would guess that the possibility is fairly likely. I think they do realize that the oc possibilities on their processors do drive sales a fair amount...I hope.

 

[aigomorla]

well the thing is a lot of people blew it up because intel said there wasnt going to be overclocking in a conventional sense.

This is true however because we can see from leaked screens NEHA doesnt have a true FSB, so the overclocking methods we took and learned on other chips dont apply on neha.

:T

This is all i can say tho sorry!

You'll need to wait until more info is leaked.

 

[quadomatic]

I just read that the Havendale will not be overclockable at all. Neither will the lynnfield, and that one was going to be the mainstream.

http://news.softpedia.com/news...m-Nehalems-84019.shtml

If this is true, and there's no way around it, this would totally suck.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: quadomatic
I just read that the Havendale will not be overclockable at all. Neither will the lynnfield, and that one was going to be the mainstream.

http://news.softpedia.com/news...m-Nehalems-84019.shtml

If this is true, and there's no way around it, this would totally suck.

What an odd article. I've no experience with softpedia, are they a legitimate news source or are they just another blog site posing as a journal site?

Like this quote:

Other processors will not be able to overclock, at least not without additional hardware tweaks.

Uhm, yeah, that's called overclocking...that part where you do additional hardware tweaks.

The Captain Insight closes out by stating:

and rumor has it that the upcoming Deneb processors will be extremely friendly to the users who plan to squeeze extra performance

Really? Because AMD is going to forego selling higher clocked SKU's at higher ASP's just so we consumers can buy the lower-priced lower-clocked chip and proceed to overclock it?

Yeah, that's sooooo gonna happen. Let me start holding my breath right now.

 

[obeseotron]

Short answer is the chips will almost certainly have plenty of headroom for overclocking because the low end of a given line always overclocks well (% increase from stock). What Intel does to prevent this on the cpus or chipsets is another story. I've seen reports that you'll need either an x58, a high end chip, or both to overclock. It's all hearsay and rumor until NDAs lift, so I haven't looked into it much.

These measures are probably aimed at counterfeiters and system sellers more than enthusiast overclockers. I would be pretty stunned if there was no way to OC at all, especially if you use a non-Intel chipset. On the other hand, Intel has plenty of very smart people, if they decided it was worth the effort, I'm sure they could figure something out to make overclocking impossible for all but the most dedicated

 

[sjwaste]

The answer is yes.

I don't have a test CPU, know virtually nothing about the forthcoming processor, but will say with full confidence that the answer is yes.

In the past few years, or even going further back, what was the last low end Intel part that didn't overclock well? Their manufacturing process is very good. Yields on the higher binned chips tend to be high, and they have to package up the cheaper/lower end parts to sell. So the answer is probably yes.

You heard it here first, and I don't even have to sit here and dangle an NDA and say I can't tell you, because I don't have one and probably never will before my Opteron 165 and E2200 kick the bucket