This portends a major potential problem for a few sectors who assume it's going to be all roses after the UI ends. If people don't want those jobs they'll probably take other ones instead.
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Im not sure what you mean.
He is saying quit tipping less just because it's a state law that the employer portion is higher. It means you're a cheap ass, the worker in a particular state didn't do any less work than the worker in the other state, so why tip based on that?
Though if you idiots wanted things to ACTUALLY change what you should do is stop tipping altogether. Shit would change rather quick![]()
That's why. In MOST cases, we tip the server in cash rather than put it on the card.
One waiter makes $12/he, the other makes $2
15% is standard.
Nothing cheap about it.
They get away with it because many employees are afraid to turn them in. It's the sad reality of it because they can't afford to lose that job. Ever industry has it's share of dirty secrets, but they all have honest and fair people too.This actually happens a lot and they get away with it. Wage/tip theft is extremely common in the restaurant industry.
The foodservice industry has a lot of dirty secrets and this is a biggie.
Most places tip share and since most places have a POS system. So the easiest way to determine share % is to take credit card tips and multiply it by a set % to assume cash tips as well. From there you request whatever tip share % from the waitstaff and divide it out to the staff. It's better for the employee group working that night if you tip on a CC. It's better for your individual waiter or waitress to pay in cash.
I'm sure some people know this but I'm using your quote to make this statement. You can't pay less than federal minimum wage. If a tipped employee doesn't make enough in tips to meet the federal minimum wage then the employer must compensate the difference. I assume most states are like mine in that they have to meet state minimum if it's higher.
They get away with it because many employees are afraid to turn them in. It's the sad reality of it because they can't afford to lose that job. Ever industry has it's share of dirty secrets, but they all have honest and fair people too.
There's a catch to the "employer must compensate the differnce" as how it's calculated is not even remotely fair to the employee. It's based on total hours worked for the week, not per day, so one day they can be making only $3 an hour with tips because it's slow, and another day they can make$12 for an hour, which combained they make $7.50 an hour, putting them over the minimum wage threshold, but in reality getting completely screwed and working for slave wages.Most places tip share and since most places have a POS system. So the easiest way to determine share % is to take credit card tips and multiply it by a set % to assume cash tips as well. From there you request whatever tip share % from the waitstaff and divide it out to the staff. It's better for the employee group working that night if you tip on a CC. It's better for your individual waiter or waitress to pay in cash.
I'm sure some people know this but I'm using your quote to make this statement. You can't pay less than federal minimum wage. If a tipped employee doesn't make enough in tips to meet the federal minimum wage then the employer must compensate the difference. I assume most states are like mine in that they have to meet state minimum if it's higher.
What? It has absolutely nothing to do with undocumented workers.. Not one bit. There are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of natural born American's who are afraid to turn in their employers for breaking labor laws, or any law for that matter because of fear of losing their jobs. The pandemic may change that, but doubtful.When you are at least partially (or entirely in some cases) staffed by undocumented workers yep. There have been some lawsuits against lager companies but that barely scratches the surface.
What? It has absolutely nothing to do with undocumented workers.. Not one bit. There are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of natural born American's who are afraid to turn in their employers for breaking labor laws, or any law for that matter because of fear of losing their jobs. The pandemic may change that, but doubtful.
There may be some undocumented immigrants who fall under this, but they are the minority for the whole nation.. There a few states, that they are not the minority, but over, they are.It's both, but their reasoning is different.
but they are the minority.
Dude, I spent 30 years in the restaurant industry, 20 as management, 13 of those 20 as General manager, across 5 states, So please, I haven't forgotten about anyone.Seems like everybody forgets about BOH.
There's a catch to the "employer must compensate the differnce" as how it's calculated is not even remotely fair to the employee. It's based on total hours worked for the week, not per day, so one day they can be making only $3 an hour with tips because it's slow, and another day they can make$12 for an hour, which combained they make $7.50 an hour, putting them over the minimum wage threshold, but in reality getting completely screwed and working for slave wages.
Then on top of that, if the establishment as a whole claims less than 8% tips, the establishment, including every single server will most likely get audited. That is why you see some restaurants do tip allocation, meaning that if they drop below that 8% mark, they allocate tips to the servers, and those servers have to claim it as income, pay taxes on it, even though they never made it.
I'm not going to dive into this slave wage discussion but you're correct in that the hourly rate at the end of the pay period is all that matters. My particular point is that a lot of people were using 2.00/hr with the insinuation that was their effective pay rate at the end of a pay period. If the person lives in a high minimum wage area then their effective pay rate is that minimum wage amount.
I have no experience in regards to an audit based off that criteria. My waitstaff make 18-20/hr if they're not good and 25-30/hr if they are. Which means my waitstaff only claim enough tips to meet minimum wage and lie about their income. Realistically, most tipped establishments that I know of have waitstaff who make well over minimum wage. As my wife works for the unemployment agency in my state I can tell you that tipped employees in general report much less than they actually make so I'm not sure your opinion on people trying to skirt their tax responsibilities. But it became a problem for them when they tried to file for unemployment during Covid.
Federal minimum wage for a tipped employee IS $2.13 per hour...
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Go all the way down to the bottom of the article you posted and read the section that says "Your employees don’t earn enough tips. Now what?".
You just posted that paying your employees is bullshit, then posted that the customer not paying your employees enough is also bullshit. How about you pay your employees and get rid of the fucking tip line.Wait what?? You cheap af bro. It has been a few months since we had a tipping thread in OT but your post just might make me create a new one.
Well... it looks like you are right then.
And the employee is making the same or more, because they have a higher base wage. And presumably, the food cost has also increased to account for the higher wage.He is saying quit tipping less just because it's a state law that the employer portion is higher. It means you're a cheap ass, the worker in a particular state didn't do any less work than the worker in the other state, so why tip based on that?
Though if you idiots wanted things to ACTUALLY change what you should do is stop tipping altogether. Shit would change rather quick![]()
You just posted that paying your employees is bullshit, then posted that the customer not paying your employees enough is also bullshit. How about you pay your employees and get rid of the fucking tip line.
And the employee is making the same or more, because they have a higher base wage. And presumably, the food cost has also increased to account for the higher wage.
