Challenge: broadband in the jungle

jagec

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OK, here's the deal.

My parents have this little farm in the middle of Ecuador, in the jungle. It's a good 30 miles or so to the nearest town with broadband, and about 3 miles to the nearest town with power lines. Their business deals with the internet, and right now they have to go out to town every few weeks to catch up on emails and send stuff off. It would be GREAT if we could get internet at the house (we have a little hydro generator, so we have power and a computer), but before this, we thought our only option would be satellite, which (last we checked) was a couple thousands dollars to install, and a few hundred a month for the service. So..no.

However, I got to thinking recently. Don't they do Broadband over Power these days? Mind you, I don't know much about it...just that many people use their home wiring to set up a little network, and power companies are talking about sending signals over their larger-distance lines to provide broadband to everyone.
Is it possible/legal/affordable to use public power lines to transmit a medium-bandwidth data signal for 30 miles or so, and then use a couple wireless routers with directional antennas to go the rest of the way? I really don't know. Intuitively, the signal should transmit OK, and will make it through any transformers, but I don't know whether it would have to be strong enough to be disruptive to power quality (which is, granted, worse than the US), or if it's practical for a "home user". I can only assume that the little "household network" devices wouldn't have the juice for it.

Assuming that's a no-go, (which I'd imagine it to be..it's a long shot), what about using a ham radio or something for internet? I'd assume it wouldn't be fast, but anything is better than nothing. Since there's no cellphone reception, we can't do that, but with a good antenna I'd imagine a ham radio would reach...I'm not too sure what the FCC, or whoever monitors the airwaves in this part of the world, would think about it, though.

Or maybe there are other alternatives I haven't thought of? Carefully-aimed lasers? A herd of specially-trained jaguars to carry the ones and zeros to the nearest modem? Some sort of ESP connection between our computer and one in the town?

Tell me what you think.
 

Sphexi

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Satellite is your best option. I know many people that got the DirecWay system, which is only for use in the US, then simply travelled south and set it up. The trick is that they track how long it takes them to ping your system, thus giving them an idea of how far in miles you are from the satellite, which tells them roughly where you are in the US. So you have to find a town in the US that's roughly the same distance from the satellite as your parents' farm is, and tell DirecWay that you're installing there, get a PO box or something. Then, assuming you're still in the beam area (I think you would be), you can simply pay the $60-$100/month for DirecWay.

Or try cellphone service.
 

freegeeks

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the best option for remote sites like this is a satellite internet service

as far as I know there are no other options
 

Atomicus

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Sorry for the OT, but why on Earth do they have a farm in the middle of Ecuador?

And why do Americans keep insisting to build their homes in the Flood Plains and Hurricane Alley? The mysteries of this world are endless :confused:
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: Atomicus
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Sorry for the OT, but why on Earth do they have a farm in the middle of Ecuador?

And why do Americans keep insisting to build their homes in the Flood Plains and Hurricane Alley? The mysteries of this world are endless :confused:

Where are the "Flood Plains"? If you're speaking of New Orleans, most of those homes were well over 50 years old, some over 100 years old. People that long ago didn't know any better.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: Atomicus
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Sorry for the OT, but why on Earth do they have a farm in the middle of Ecuador?

And why do Americans keep insisting to build their homes in the Flood Plains and Hurricane Alley? The mysteries of this world are endless :confused:

The French settled New Orleans. Explains a lot doesn't it.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Sorry for the OT, but why on Earth do they have a farm in the middle of Ecuador?

They were in the Peace Corps and loved the area.

It's really a beautiful farm....got a river and waterfalls and mountains and everything.
 

Sphexi

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Sorry for the OT, but why on Earth do they have a farm in the middle of Ecuador?

They were in the Peace Corps and loved the area.

It's really a beautiful farm....got a river and waterfalls and mountains and everything.

Then they shouldn't complain about spending a few hundred bucks a month for Internet access. They could afford a farm in S. America, their business requires the Internet, kind of a big DUH here.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Sorry for the OT, but why on Earth do they have a farm in the middle of Ecuador?

They were in the Peace Corps and loved the area.

It's really a beautiful farm....got a river and waterfalls and mountains and everything.

Then they shouldn't complain about spending a few hundred bucks a month for Internet access. They could afford a farm in S. America, their business requires the Internet, kind of a big DUH here.
Uhh... right.... :confused:
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Sorry for the OT, but why on Earth do they have a farm in the middle of Ecuador?

They were in the Peace Corps and loved the area.

It's really a beautiful farm....got a river and waterfalls and mountains and everything.

Then they shouldn't complain about spending a few hundred bucks a month for Internet access. They could afford a farm in S. America, their business requires the Internet, kind of a big DUH here.
They could "afford" a farm in S. America? Do you know what land values are like down here?

Hint: LESS than the US.

As for the internet...right now we just go out to town every few weeks, which works out OK for us...it would just be nicer to have it at home.
 

JLGatsby

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Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Sorry for the OT, but why on Earth do they have a farm in the middle of Ecuador?

They were in the Peace Corps and loved the area.

It's really a beautiful farm....got a river and waterfalls and mountains and everything.

Then they shouldn't complain about spending a few hundred bucks a month for Internet access. They could afford a farm in S. America, their business requires the Internet, kind of a big DUH here.

The average American can live like a king anywhere in South America.
 

mercanucaribe

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Got any pics of your parents' land?


Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Atomicus
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Sorry for the OT, but why on Earth do they have a farm in the middle of Ecuador?

And why do Americans keep insisting to build their homes in the Flood Plains and Hurricane Alley? The mysteries of this world are endless :confused:

Where are the "Flood Plains"? If you're speaking of New Orleans, most of those homes were well over 50 years old, some over 100 years old. People that long ago didn't know any better.

New Orleans is built on a delta, and this has been known for centuries. Fluvial geomorphologists, geologists, and geographers would have told you that it was a bad idea to build there 75-100 years ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomorphology

 

Sphexi

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Sphexi
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Sorry for the OT, but why on Earth do they have a farm in the middle of Ecuador?

They were in the Peace Corps and loved the area.

It's really a beautiful farm....got a river and waterfalls and mountains and everything.

Then they shouldn't complain about spending a few hundred bucks a month for Internet access. They could afford a farm in S. America, their business requires the Internet, kind of a big DUH here.

The average American can live like a king anywhere in South America.

With what income? The reason Americans seem like kings down there is the piss poor economy. But if someone were to move down there, how would they make any more money than the people already there?

So either they have a business/house/life up here that they use to fund their life down there, or they have a business they can somehow run from down there that requires the Internet in order to thrive, in which case they shouldn't be concerned with how much it costs at their jungle house.
 

jagec

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Doing a bit more research, I find that *some* people have gotten Direcway to work down here, but many more people are having trouble. However, one guy mentions he's using internet "over radio" (¿?).

Any thoughts?