Chaintech 6200 question...

[Soujiroh]

SE6200/128

I just bought this video card from newegg and was wondering if anyone has had good luck with it? In terms of unlocking the 4 extra pipes and also OCing the core? Which program should I be using?(rivatuner vs coolbits vs any other programs?)

(If I am unable to unlock and oc the gpu, I may return and buy a 6600.)

 

[dug777]

rivatuner, but if its the 44 core then no luck for you my son

 

[imported_Kiwi]

"If it's the 44 Core" -- so how does one determine this?

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Kiwi
"If it's the 44 Core" -- so how does one determine this?

i believe a program like lavalys everest home edition will tell you this.....just checking mine and under dsiplys -> GPU it tells me my GPU code is NV40GT

so thats how

if he gets a NV44 chip (which he will if this is a PCI-Express 6200) then there arent any pipes to unlock

i believe the AGP 6200 is the one that was built using a 6600 chip and disabling 1 quad.

 

[BobDaMenkey]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Kiwi
"If it's the 44 Core" -- so how does one determine this?

i believe a program like lavalys everest home edition will tell you this.....just checking mine and under dsiplys -> GPU it tells me my GPU code is NV40GT

so thats how

if he gets a NV44 chip (which he will if this is a PCI-Express 6200) then there arent any pipes to unlock

i believe the AGP 6200 is the one that was built using a 6600 chip and disabling 1 quad.

Right, BUT, there's a slight problem as well. nVidia stopped making the older cores and started shipping out the NV44a on the AGP cards.

If you have a card that has a 128bit memory bus, there's some hope that it will unlock, otherwise I'm pretty sure you got stuck with the newer GPU that isn't going to unlock.

The reason for the switch on core designs is transistor counts. They dropped 20 million or so transistors IIRC by switching to the new core, because it simply doesn't have non functional pipelines. So instead of putting them there and not activating them, the took them away entirely.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: BobDaMenkey

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Kiwi
"If it's the 44 Core" -- so how does one determine this?

i believe a program like lavalys everest home edition will tell you this.....just checking mine and under dsiplys -> GPU it tells me my GPU code is NV40GT

so thats how

if he gets a NV44 chip (which he will if this is a PCI-Express 6200) then there arent any pipes to unlock

i believe the AGP 6200 is the one that was built using a 6600 chip and disabling 1 quad.

Right, BUT, there's a slight problem as well. nVidia stopped making the older cores and started shipping out the NV44a on the AGP cards.

If you have a card that has a 128bit memory bus, there's some hope that it will unlock, otherwise I'm pretty sure you got stuck with the newer GPU that isn't going to unlock.

The reason for the switch on core designs is transistor counts. They dropped 20 million or so transistors IIRC by switching to the new core, because it simply doesn't have non functional pipelines. So instead of putting them there and not activating them, the took them away entirely.

almost iiRC

If you get a NV43 chip then you might be able to unlock...that was the old AGP 6200, but they are pretty much all NV44a now (the native AGP 6200 core) so no unlocking...i think

 

[imported_Kiwi]

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

i believe a program like lavalys everest home edition will tell you this.....just checking mine and under dsiplys -> GPU it tells me my GPU code is NV40GT

so thats how

i believe the AGP 6200 is the one that was built using a 6600 chip and disabling 1 quad.

Hmmm? Well, it might be just academic, for my own information, since I think it should be OK on its own. I built a PC here with an XP 2400 and an Epox MB (that is coming back out) and an FX 5600 nu (didn't even know there was an Ultra for an FX lower in the pecking order than a FX 5700), then again, it might be an FX 5500 -- the card isn't here in front of me. It's for a young grandson, who loves almost anything from Star Wars, and also likes Arcade style flying combat games (Crimson Skies).

Tested here at my place, in air conditioned comfort, everything was working. Trundled over where it was supposed to be used, it acted like it was overheated. Instead, it was Epox's bad capacitors. I've swapped that MB out for another, and I didn't like that one a bit better. But in the meanwhile, I saw some serious lagging in 2D on the machine.

We're not talking about heavy duty rapid fire mayhem at all, although I thought about putting a copy of KOTOR on it (it does have NWN). He's pretty immature, I think, for his age (leastwise, the way I remember I was at his age, I was a lot more grown up), so I'm not suggesting a hugely violent thing like any shooters. I'll be matching the XP 2400 to 512 MB's of DDR 333, an NF7-plain, this generic no-name GF 6200, and Windows98se.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Kiwi

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

i believe a program like lavalys everest home edition will tell you this.....just checking mine and under dsiplys -> GPU it tells me my GPU code is NV40GT

so thats how

i believe the AGP 6200 is the one that was built using a 6600 chip and disabling 1 quad.

Hmmm? Well, it might be just academic, for my own information, since I think it should be OK on its own. I built a PC here with an XP 2400 and an Epox MB (that is coming back out) and an FX 5600 nu (didn't even know there was an Ultra for an FX lower in the pecking order than a FX 5700), then again, it might be an FX 5500 -- the card isn't here in front of me. It's for a young grandson, who loves almost anything from Star Wars, and also likes Arcade style flying combat games (Crimson Skies).

Tested here at my place, in air conditioned comfort, everything was working. Trundled over where it was supposed to be used, it acted like it was overheated. Instead, it was Epox's bad capacitors. I've swapped that MB out for another, and I didn't like that one a bit better. But in the meanwhile, I saw some serious lagging in 2D on the machine.

We're not talking about heavy duty rapid fire mayhem at all, although I thought about putting a copy of KOTOR on it (it does have NWN). He's pretty immature, I think, for his age (leastwise, the way I remember I was at his age, I was a lot more grown up), so I'm not suggesting a hugely violent thing like any shooters. I'll be matching the XP 2400 to 512 MB's of DDR 333, an NF7-plain, this generic no-name GF 6200, and Windows98se.

should be fine for a computer for him, though i would reccommend trying to get some form of win XP, or even windows 2000 over 98.

i love that everest program it even tells you the die sizes lol!

 

[imported_Kiwi]

It has W2K on it, but I don't think it's really needed for anything he'll be doing with it before it's replaced. He wants Tie Fighter and X-Wing, and those require a real DOS, not what's in W2K. XP is bloated dessert pastry fluff, not at all worth the trouble of messing with. I have both Home & Pro. I have removed XP from the PC's it was tested on. I hated it. If the kid decides he wants it, his Mom can buy it for him.


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