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Ravynmagi

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I am liking the new price points in Android phones that Motorola has established. $200 mid-range, $350 high end. Along with the rise of T-mobile pricing model, I think the smartphone ecosystem is getting to where it should have been long time ago.

Yeah, those Zenfones from ASUS looked nice for their prices, $100 to $200. The Moto G is pretty nice at $180 (and Verizon giving theirs away at $100). Nexus 5 is awesome at $350 and even the Moto X has come down to $400.

I don't think I'll ever spend $600+ on a phone again. Thank god.
 

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Yeah, those Zenfones from ASUS looked nice for their prices, $100 to $200. The Moto G is pretty nice at $180 (and Verizon giving theirs away at $100). Nexus 5 is awesome at $350 and even the Moto X has come down to $400.

I don't think I'll ever spend $600+ on a phone again. Thank god.

They did a good job, but they kinda ruined it with those small batteries.
 

kpkp

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1170mah? My 7 year old nokia with a 2.9" display had a 1500mah... The Galaxy S had a 1500mah 4 generations ago.

The bigger the Zen, more decent the battery size gets.
 

Ravynmagi

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1170mah? My 7 year old nokia with a 2.9" display had a 1500mah... The Galaxy S had a 1500mah 4 generations ago.

The bigger the Zen, more decent the battery size gets.

Yeah, but haven't phones also become more battery efficient in the last few years?

Think about it this way...
7 years ago your 2.9 inch phone apparently needed a 1500mAh battery.
About 4 years later a 1500mAh battery was powering a 4 inch phone.
Now a 4 inch phone can run off an 1100mAh battery.

I guess we'll have to see how well these batteries last when someone reviews them. As for the 4 inch model, it's not the 1100mAh battery that concerns me most as is the non-IPS display.

The Zenfone 5 seems like the sweet spot. 2050mAh battery should be fine. 720p resolution should still look good on a 5 inch screen.
 

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s44

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So there's apparently a 2gb RAM/16gb storage version of the Zenfone 6, though it's over $200.
 

SAWYER

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No he is right I think, I saw that somewhere else but it may be wrong though
 
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Ravynmagi

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Hmmm... kinda more interested in this big beast now if it's AMOLED.

PS. Though I suspect the price will turn me off. I'm guessing between $600 and $700 (I could get a Miix 2 11 with keyboard and Haswell for that price).

PPS. I just learned the Miix 2 11 keyboard is sold separately at $200. Yikes, suddenly that's not as cool as I thought it was going to be.
 
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EvilYoda

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Yep, already went to their website to get added to their email list. I really doubt that Apple would approve a Magsafe version...buuuuuuut, if they do *insert Fry SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY meme*
 

StrangerGuy

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Yeah, those Zenfones from ASUS looked nice for their prices, $100 to $200. The Moto G is pretty nice at $180 (and Verizon giving theirs away at $100). Nexus 5 is awesome at $350 and even the Moto X has come down to $400.

I don't think I'll ever spend $600+ on a phone again. Thank god.

In China, one of their top selling android phones online has a 720p IPS screen, Quad A7, 2GB RAM and the usual dual-SIM 2G/3G + microSD.

All that for under US$80, I kid you not. No surprise everybody outside China except Apple has a hard time selling phones in China...
 

Kelvinz

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CES 2014 looks like it was a repetition of CES 2013 with a few minor additions.

Except LG is serious about making 4K UHDTVs affordable to the masses now.

And the curved TVs from LG/Samsung are amazing at large screen sizes.
 

lopri

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I've just learned about new Tegra 5s and did not read about what interested me most - memory interface and bandwidth.

The two versions (K1 and K2) are reportedly pin-compatible, which leads me to presume they share a same memory configuration. That would be quite a feat if there is no imbalanced resource distributions. K1 -> Quad A15 + Kepler (192 "cores"), K2 -> Dual custom ARMv8 core + Kepler (192 "cores")

I wasn't able to find what kind of memory they're using in what manner. Or theoretical bandwidth figures. Usually NV will proudly point out such things, so absence of those in the powerpoint shots don't give me much confidence.

Both being manufactured in 28 nm isn't also very assuring. I know that 28 nm is quite mature at this point, but how much more room is there left? After all, I thought NV wanted to take advantage of mature 28 nm process with Tegra 4i. (with single-channel 32-bit DDR3, ugh) Evidently that's been canceled, it seems.

Does anyone know what kind of memory [configurations] are Tegra 5s expected to use? Qualcomn is going 128-bit (dual/quad-channel) with S805, iirc.