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Despite water at the Hoover Dam being at record lows, with just enough capacity to eeke out power for CA and Las Vegas, Utah wants to divert water from the Colorado River so they can build luxury life style homes complete with water hungry green grass suburbs with lots of golf courses........in the middle of a desert. Because land is cheap and developers simply do not have enough billions and nobody wants to live in the same place more than 12 months anyway.

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It's the dirty secret of every government. Moar revenue into the local coffers is a giant carrot every government wants.

In the old days, sometimes taking coin by force can lead to a full Treasury and a popular ruler(Elizabeth II)
 
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It's the direct secret of every government. Moar revenue into the local coffers is a giant carrot every government wants.

In the old days, sometimes taking coin by force can lead to a full Treasury and a popular ruler(Elizabeth II)
Yes indeedy. Just like tax rates will only ever increase.

Just think about it: In government it's an army of people across all different groups and divisions fighting for their jobs 24/7. Who is the one who would oversight and say that something is no longer needed? The taxpayer. Who doesn't have much if any of a say - let alone the knowledge needed? The taxpayer.

My wife works in government and has to deal with contractors. The recent contractor had to produce a general process documentation of what they planned to do, the procedures, etc ..

You know what the contractor did? They asked the previous contractor for their documentation, and entirely mimicked it, and did a find/replace for the previous contractor name and replaced it with their name.... Even.... Though.... The previous contractor used entirely different vehicles, equipment, and more.

Where I work in the private industry, that would immediately be laughed at, the contractor would immediately be fired, and laughed out the door. Not so much in government lol. My wife had to essentially review the ENTIRE document, even though the entire document was bullshit, and then have meeting after meeting to say what was wrong... Which is that it was plagiarized, entirely unprofessional, and a joke.

Only in government. The real world doesn't operate like that.
 

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Yes indeedy. Just like tax rates will only ever increase.

Just think about it: In government it's an army of people across all different groups and divisions fighting for their jobs 24/7. Who is the one who would oversight and say that something is no longer needed? The taxpayer. Who doesn't have much if any of a say - let alone the knowledge needed? The taxpayer.

My wife works in government and has to deal with contractors. The recent contractor had to produce a general process documentation of what they planned to do, the procedures, etc ..

You know what the contractor did? They asked the previous contractor for their documentation, and entirely mimicked it, and did a find/replace for the previous contractor name and replaced it with their name.... Even.... Though.... The previous contractor used entirely different vehicles, equipment, and more.

Where I work in the private industry, that would immediately be laughed at, the contractor would immediately be fired, and laughed out the door. Not so much in government lol. My wife had to essentially review the ENTIRE document, even though the entire document was bullshit, and then have meeting after meeting to say what was wrong... Which is that it was plagiarized, entirely unprofessional, and a joke.

Only in government. The real world doesn't operate like that.
Yeah. The private industry never does insane crazy shit that costs people a ton of money with terrible processes that get away with murder for a lot of shit. Enron, Madoff, WeWork, TWA, the guy that just lost 20 billion in a week. I mean the list is insanely long of business that fucked up so bad and fucked a million people over during the process while the executives made off like bandits, in most cases, for a long time.

The problem is if government went under like them, it would be chaos. But things change, new politicians are elected and need legislation passes.

Either way, you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
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Hey at least it does not require me to rebuild my house. Well unless the furnace was to break down and the water main bursts, then yeah that would be a disaster. Basement would fill up, it would eventually freeze, then probably force the foundation walls apart. The Texas power incident made me realize I should probably have a form of backup heat in case we were to ever lose hydro or natural gas service here in winter. I need to finish my solar project and bring power in from the shed. Want to do that before winter.
The left coast of California is essentially weather paradise. Santa Barbara has been beckoning me since I heard Jim Rome on the radio but I've fucked up my pathways in life so if I ever go there, I'll be a grumpy 45+ year old.

Exactly. :rolleyes:

Folks that are being "caught by surprise" by this are about as freaking bright as all the dumb fvcks who "didn't know" the west's water usage on the Colorado was unsustainable even without climate change.

Ranger Rick (a nature magazine for kids) was writing about this stuff in back in the mid-1970's as was every reputable environmentalist.

And the bad news is the only way we go back to "normal" is if the human race gets wiped out and 50k years pass. (a blink of an eye to the Earth)

You gotta remove California's big titties from its fine ass curvy and ripped body to stop the Colorado from being drained. Ain't no one got the will to live in the fucking desert except...the sentiments of retirement, low cost housing, and lower property taxes from rich ass people who get too old and tired of Cali after making bank there.

The Gold Rush never ended, it just got converted into intangible gold.
 

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^dafuque?
The process is simple. California pumps up all the real estate markets nearby. As a state, it's economy is a real powerhouse, and it's a place people want to go to. The media's hype of homeless and natural disasters etc doesn't detract from the financial power of the state and the earning power of its constituents. In fact, it is expected that as more rich people started populating an area, the more likely the homeless can exist. It's not really a crisis because they can afford to let it grow like it has there.

I google fu'd the town of St. George. As far as natural endowments, the land SUCKS. It's mountainous wasteland with a couple reservations within a few hundred miles(more "shit real estate" the government dumped on the Indians) and protected parks. It's population reflected the part with a small population was until recently. Only thing going for it is an interstate and Vegas...119 miles away.

Something needs to be flowing out of somewhere else to want that little enclave in freaking Mormon country to suddenly have million dollar homes sprouting out of bare desert land. That's rich old-but-not-too old 50 plussers. https://www.deseret.com/utah/2021/4...age-as-residents-move-covid19-pandemic-growth



That, and schools. No better way to pump up and populate real estate in the middle of fucking nowhere than schools.

As for the Gold Rush comment, people move there for the same reason the initial wave move there for gold. Money, fame, maybe both. Just that the money has changed throughout the years and it's now tech jobs. Hollywood has never went away, however. Even the British royalty has been reeled in to the state. As far as the pecking order of states go in the U.S, and compared to many other countries, California is #1.