I'm still not following your argument.
Its posible that those coming in may well turn out to be better, more hard working individuals than the people they are displacing.
I dont think you can divide the two groups into a good hard working productive group and a group that just consumes resources.
Theres going to be a mix of both in each group.
The internet is woefully inadequate for serious discussions, and using a mobile phone makes it doubly difficult. I'm not being clear and that's my fault. Let me try again.
I agree that those coming in can be productive. There's nothing inherently wrong with them, but I'll address that later.
You've been a victim of a partial exposure to my thought processes and as I look at the OP it's no wonder that nothing makes sense. What I did is look beyond the title and focused on "what happens next" in the context of increasing minorities which tend to be poorer. Note the birth rates by single black mothers. Personally, I don't care if someone is purple or black or white or a Martian. What I see is an increasing population which does not have the ability to pay for itself. Contrary to the popular horror stories this does not mean that huge groups of families are roaming the streets raiding supermarkets or whatever. In most situations children are paid for by the state. If the parent is on medicaid, then the children are automatically provided for. The problem is that our current system is open ended. In NY a single on medicaid gets so much money. For every child she earns more. The result is that a six child family is not uncommon. Also, there is considerable pressure in the inner city for people encourage others to do the same. Having grown up in the inner city and worked in it, it's fairly common to have people say that someone else is foolish to work when all they have to do is have more children. Social and economic pressures which lead more of this must lead to increased pressure on the public who pays taxes. In NY Medicaid is the single largest item in the budget, so much so that our taxes earmarked for education are being taken to provide for it and there is no end in sight. We can't afford the demographic trend. Other states aren't as bad now, but the rate of tax increase is obviously proportional to the number of births. Obviously this is unsustainable.
If there is one thing that can't be done in American politics is to talk about this. One may say that culture, local society, history, anything you like are the relevant factors, but propose reform and Jesse Jackson is knocking on your door. Even in forums we get ridiculous appeals to political ideologies and racism debates take over.
So how I decided to approach this is from a point which has nothing to do with any of that. If consumers in a food chain overwhelm producers then collapse of the food web ensues. We don't care what causes it, we are just acknowledging the result. We cannot have an increasing population depending on fewer people who themselves are having financial problems.
Now does this mean that all who are born will stay on welfare? No, but there are a significant number of multigenerational welfare families who are growing in proportion to everyone else. This is a non-moral statement. It just is, and if people are lazy or unlucky, it doesn't matter to an uncorrected outcome. That was my point, that the inevitable problems of sustainability are not because some people are more moral than others. That's completely irrelevant. The real question is how can we reverse a real and dangerous trend? What will a changing demographic do when it comes to power? Will it be ignorant or educated? Will it be looking to add or take? Obviously I'm speaking about the "on average" influence, not any individual or group.
Now we're talking about causation and possible solutions and attitudes and subjective values do come into play. I haven't gotten to that yet.
The challenge is to keep focus and attempt to have others do the same rather than defaulting to "those lazy whatevers" or "the evil right" nonsense brought up completely out of context. We need to find a way to make people self sufficient, and discourage a perpetual state of poverty.
Emotion, concern, sympathy, -these are all valid human responses to something like this, but there are those small people use the unenviable circumstances of others to show just how saintly they are whether it's to show their personal industry, or are saying how morally superior they are to those on the opposite side of the political coin. Those are distractions in a situation where all will eventually be "eaten" unless a workable solution is found.
Dang, I'm still being distracted. Oh well, at least I hope it is a little clearer.
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