Census shows whites lose US majority among babies

[Infohawk]

Yes, that's it. I'm a non-white supremacist

You can hide behind your sarcasm or perhaps you can discuss where you're really coming from in this thread. Do you think your comments are any better than the people here that are saying this is terrible news? To me, you seem just as bad.

 

[Anarchist420]

I'm not racist or anything, but this isn't the type of news I want to hear, because most of them are even more authoritarian than the average white person.

Society truly is fucked. Some realize it, most don't.

 

[wuliheron]

I'm sure someone in the past where you live has been fucked too. I don't personally know anyone who has "fucked" (not sex) any of these people you had pointed out. I happen to be half osage indian, half white. So i'm fucking myself? :/

Yep. Most people do.

 

[classy]

Ill probably have kids in my 30s

Honestly, there will be a baby boomer rush coming for white professional couples in the next 10 years. All of the people opting to work and finally settle into their careers are going to rush in for kids before its too late.

Probably 2-5% of my white friends have had kids and are in their 20s still. I can absolutely see around 70-80% having at least one kid in the next ten years.

Compare this to parents of lower income, not racially specific, who generally have kids at much younger ages.

Thats the problem, many of the women don't want to wait. So rather than having 2-3 kids like they would want to, they either have to go outside the race or settle for just one. A lot are not waiting. A lot of you dudes seem like decent guys, but your expectations are a bit flimsy. I see many here who are 25,26, almost 30 years old and still don't know what they want. Most people are out of school and set in a some career path by age 22-23. A lof these girls don't wanna wait.

I seen a lady the other day, nice looking lady with a brother. You could see and I don't mean any harm, he was a bit out of his league. But they were a couple. She was definately older, by out 5 years or so. He looked 24 and she was about 31. You could see he was able and willing and she was clearly had that baby wanting look. Was that the case? I ain't sure, but I did hear the word settling down, lol.

I am not going to see its an end all be all, but my white brotheren are not interested in starting families and my fellow brothers are struggling to take care of theirs, lol. Its all messed up.

 

[WelshBloke]

As far as I've seen, white Spaniards can qualify as being grouped "Hispanic" in terms of affirmative action and the like. It's fairly absurd and demonstrates the problems of trying to categorize people in these arbitrary ways.

With that said the vast majority of "Hispanic" immigrants to the US have some indigenous blood so you can see why they may be considered non-white since the "white" category really means "pure white." Again, all these attempts to categorize people is silly and not useful for society.

Yeah now I've realised you guys use the term differently it make more sense.

At school (many years ago) the Spanish Armada would be referred to as the Hispanic fleet for example.

You're right though it does shine a light on the absurdity of dividing humans up into arbitrary 'races' though.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You can hide behind your sarcasm or perhaps you can discuss where you're really coming from in this thread. Do you think your comments are any better than the people here that are saying this is terrible news? To me, you seem just as bad.

The irony is that his race won't protect him. Wait until his state raises his taxes then he'll sound like Whitey. Ask him what he thinks of his relatively low taxes now.

 

[Craig234]

Just what have you personally done? How many countries have you been to and helped rebuild out of your own funds? I hope it's at least one. BTW nice non sequitur. In this nation who set up a system which encourages single mothers to have more children than they can afford? Oh look it's the left. This is an area where your partisanship will not serve you well.

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It's a good thing that utter poverty prevents people from having children.

Oh, wait, the worse the poverty the MORE children they have.

Oh, wait, the dollars spent reducing that poverty - besides the moral benefits - actually have great returns for society.

Nevermind. Waste of time.

 

[mizzou]

The writing's been on the wall for some time. This is just a continuation of the same phenomenon: white people are becoming a smaller and smaller proportion of the population. Anyway, people mix. We're moving towards a multi-racial society. The real issue is what culture we're moving towards.



White professionals have been around for a long time and there hasn't been a "white professional baby boom" ever as far I can tell. Professionals tend to have less kids. The longer you wait, the more time there is for a divorce or for the biological clock to run out. And it's not like people who have kids earlier necessarily stop having kids later.

my reasoning is that the dual working spouses im this last generation isnt a yuppy choice, its a yuppy necessity. All thise women who have been dying.for kids but cant because of medical costs and other child care costs that were unheard of until recently.

I think the post 9-11 crowd was maybe not thrown into adulthood but thrown ino a chaotic world where nothing is consistent. That is something totally unique to people of my generation. Many people just dont want to plan on bringing kids into this world only i be bankrupt by the next financial bubble collapse.

If healthcare wasnt an additional $500-800 for one baby a month, and we actually git raises, your damn right id be having kids by now.

The saying is youll never be financially ready for kids, thats bs, you do have a responsibility to afford the basic needs first.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You can hide behind your sarcasm or perhaps you can discuss where you're really coming from in this thread. Do you think your comments are any better than the people here that are saying this is terrible news? To me, you seem just as bad.

Yeah now I've realised you guys use the term differently it make more sense.

At school (many years ago) the Spanish Armada would be referred to as the Hispanic fleet for example.

You're right though it does shine a light on the absurdity of dividing humans up into arbitrary 'races' though.

The problem is that people associate themselves with race and that creates or significantly contributes to a culture. The toughest hurdle for an inner city black kid who wants a good education is to overcome resistance from other inner city black kids. It's not inherently a problem race but culture and that is factually determined by identification of color. That it's illogical makes no difference to reality.

 

[PokerGuy]

OP: I'd agree with the magic 8 ball, we're doomed.

 

[gaidensensei]

The problem is that people associate themselves with race and that creates or significantly contributes to a culture. The toughest hurdle for an inner city black kid who wants a good education is to overcome resistance from other inner city black kids. It's not inherently a problem race but culture and that is factually determined by identification of color. That it's illogical makes no difference to reality.

In the recent times, smarter individuals have begun to drop the use of race and instead use ethnicity. However, it wasn't the end.

It brings a even bigger problem to drop out of race and into culture, the rage has shifted towards association by culture into the concept of ethnicity, homologous ancestry, and so on. There are the homosexual, disabled groups trying to claim that they want to be considered its own ethnicity, since the primary concept of ethnicity underlies a different culture and/or language from another.

It is a growing problem and continues to grow in the USA exponentially. I would imagine Europe doesn't have as much of a problem with this as we do, mostly due to the lack of people from different ancestries living in the same area.

 

[Throckmorton]

You can hide behind your sarcasm or perhaps you can discuss where you're really coming from in this thread. Do you think your comments are any better than the people here that are saying this is terrible news? To me, you seem just as bad.

I was joking. Do you honestly think I'm racist toward white people?? I don't see how this news is either good or bad.

Most of my friends are white :awe:

BTW, as far as I know I'm the only person on this forum who has stated that bigotry against poor white people, aka "rednecks" or "crackers" or "white trash", is the same as racism toward blacks or Latinos.

 

[Throckmorton]

The irony is that his race won't protect him. Wait until his state raises his taxes then he'll sound like Whitey. Ask him what he thinks of his relatively low taxes now.

WTF are you talking about? My taxes are already high.

I'm not even a member of any race. I'm mixed.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

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It's a good thing that utter poverty prevents people from having children.

Oh, wait, the worse the poverty the MORE children they have.

Oh, wait, the dollars spent reducing that poverty - besides the moral benefits - actually have great returns for society.

Nevermind. Waste of time.

It's often true that when facts conflict with ideology the former is the loser. Apparently you live an isolated life. I can't help that.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

WTF are you talking about? My taxes are already high.

I'm not even a member of any race. I'm mixed.

Not high enough to support the interplay of science and politics. Your race is immaterial.

 

[classy]

my reasoning is that the dual working spouses im this last generation isnt a yuppy choice, its a yuppy necessity. All thise women who have been dying.for kids but cant because of medical costs and other child care costs that were unheard of until recently.

I think the post 9-11 crowd was maybe not thrown into adulthood but thrown ino a chaotic world where nothing is consistent. That is something totally unique to people of my generation. Many people just dont want to plan on bringing kids into this world only i be bankrupt by the next financial bubble collapse.

If healthcare wasnt an additional $500-800 for one baby a month, and we actually git raises, your damn right id be having kids by now.

The saying is youll never be financially ready for kids, thats bs, you do have a responsibility to afford the basic needs first.

Unless you are wealthy, you will never ever be ready to afford a kid. That is a true statement. Some will be better suited to handle the change from a financial respect, but don't kid yourself, you will go without for yourself. Raising kids is a truly an on the job learning experience.

 

[fskimospy]

Yes. Besides Japan, the only first world countries on the planet are white majority. Does that sound racist ? Yea but its also a fact, and looking at Haiti and Mexico doesn't inspire confidence that a "minority" majority in the future is going to keep the US as being a first world nation, that developed most of the modern day inventions we take for granted today. Also the fact that with the exception of Asians, minority ethnic groups in this country are incarcerated at a very high rate compared to whites and are also on welfare at a far higher rate *and* tend to drop out of school early [not educated]...Thats our future folks.

So yes this country is fucked. Maybe if there was atleast 1 [yes just 1] black majority country that was first world I wouldn't feel that way. Or a single Latin American nation that has its shit together...But thats asking to much. Call me racist I dont care but calling a spade a spade is better than being oblivious.



Pre-emptive "dat racist" GIF here-

Yeap, you're definitely a racist.

Try not to cut yourself with that 3dge though, you're totally blowing the internet's mind.

 

[Infohawk]

I was joking. Do you honestly think I'm racist toward white people?? I don't see how this news is either good or bad.

Most of my friends are white :awe:

BTW, as far as I know I'm the only person on this forum who has stated that bigotry against poor white people, aka "rednecks" or "crackers" or "white trash", is the same as racism toward blacks or Latinos.

I don't think you really hate white people just like I don't think a lot of the people here complaining about these stats actually hate minorities. (Though some may, I can't rule that out.) But honestly I have no way of knowing if you truly take pleasure out of the fact that whites are propagating less. But if you say you're joking I will take your word for it.

But at what point do these "reverse-discrimination" jokes stop being funny or tolerated? I think we can agree that if someone said "these damned [insert racial insult] are taking over this country" it wouldn't be funny even though the person could say they were joking afterwards. I've always thought it was BS that the same comments about whites were more tolerated because whites were the dominant population. Whites are barely the majority any more. It's time to end the double-standards.

Maybe our misunderstanding is that you think "whitey" is not a derogatory term? It is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs#W But even then if you hadn't used it, I think a guy joking about having sex with chicano women to make the chicano population more white wouldn't be considered funny.

So someone can accuse me of being too serious about this but I'm mostly taking issue with the double-standard.

 

[peonyu]

Yeap, you're definitely a racist.

Try not to cut yourself with that 3dge though, you're totally blowing the internet's mind.

I didn't say anything racist tbh, just facts. Name a black majority first world country? crickets. Latin-American one ? crickets. Racist ? No. Controversial comment, yes.

Minorities under perform in school, have higher incarceration rates and welfare rates than whites, once again those are pure facts.


Knowing that someone would be a pc pussy and say its racist ? For sure, which is why I added the "call me racist" bit since every forum has its purple purse toting "you racist" person on it.

 

[WelshBloke]

The problem is that people associate themselves with race and that creates or significantly contributes to a culture. The toughest hurdle for an inner city black kid who wants a good education is to overcome resistance from other inner city black kids. It's not inherently a problem race but culture and that is factually determined by identification of color. That it's illogical makes no difference to reality.

I agree its definitely culture not race that important. Your example of an inner city black kid in the US will have little in common with the rural black kid in my sons school. The defining factor in your example, in my opinion, would be the deprivation, lack of opportunity and poverty in the childs surroundings not the ethnic background of the child.

There is no black culture, there may be a black American culture but thats going to differ to from a black person with a different background.

Race is irrelevant, its the culture of our surroundings that shapes us.

 

[fskimospy]

I didn't say anything racist tbh, just facts. Name a black majority first world country? crickets. Latin-American one ? crickets. Racist ? No. Controversial comment, yes.

But are those all facts ? You bet.

Knowing that someone would be a pc pussy and say its racist ? For sure.

Hahaha, keep on tellin' it like it is!!! As other people told you, son, correlation does not equal causation. Of course if you knew that, you never would have made this thread and embarrassed yourself to begin with.

Knowing that you're yet another tard on here who thinks that he's being all edgy and non-pc by drawing hilariously unwarranted conclusions from the evidence? For sure. Keep telling yourself you aren't racist and are just being oppressed by the 'pc pussies' though. It will probably make it easier to live with yourself.

 

[Throckmorton]

I don't think you really hate white people just like I don't think a lot of the people here complaining about these stats actually hate minorities. (Though some may, I can't rule that out.) But honestly I have no way of knowing if you truly take pleasure out of the fact that whites are propagating less. But if you say you're joking I will take your word for it.

But at what point do these "reverse-discrimination" jokes stop being funny or tolerated? I think we can agree that if someone said "these damned [insert racial insult] are taking over this country" it wouldn't be funny even though the person could say they were joking afterwards. I've always thought it was BS that the same comments about whites were more tolerated because whites were the dominant population. Whites are barely the majority any more. It's time to end the double-standards.

Maybe our misunderstanding is that you think "whitey" is not a derogatory term? It is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs#W But even then if you hadn't used it, I think a guy joking about having sex with chicano women to make the chicano population more white wouldn't be considered funny.

So someone can accuse me of being too serious about this but I'm mostly taking issue with the double-standard.

You're not even a minority yet and you're already playing the race card.


I think you're way out of touch with what is considered racist and what's not. Racist jokes, basically making fun of racism itself, are very common in modern comedy, targeting all races. Ever watch Tosh.0 or the Chappelle Show or Blue Collar Comedy? Are you up in arms because Tosh makes jokes generalizing about black people, or because Jeff Foxworthy makes fun of "redneck" stereotypes?

You sound like the busybodies who were calling it racism when Robert Downey's character in Tropic Thunder wore blackface, even though it was obviously making fun of racism, not being racist.

 

[boomerang]

Personally, I'm looking forward to being an oppressed minority. If you play the system right, it can reward you handsomely. The transition years are going to be brutal though. It's going to take a while before folks that were once in the minority realize they're now in the majority and that the burden has shifted.

 

[highland145]

Personally, I'm looking forward to being an oppressed minority. If you play the system right, it can reward you handsomely. The transition years are going to be brutal though. It's going to take a while before folks that were once in the minority realize they're now in the majority and that the burden has shifted.

I think they'll redistribute your wealth and, when it's gone, we'll tumble into chaos.

/U.S. of A.

 

[Throckmorton]

Personally, I'm looking forward to being an oppressed minority. If you play the system right, it can reward you handsomely. The transition years are going to be brutal though. It's going to take a while before folks that were once in the minority realize they're now in the majority and that the burden has shifted.

So you think the majority bears some kind of special burden? In your view all the non-whites are currently leaching off of hardworking whites?