Celeron or p4? Which gives most bang for buck?

[VitoVonAntwon]

Intel plans on releasing a celeron clocked at 2.6 ghz with 1mb cache on the 23rd of june. For 104$

Do you think that these, will have similar performance to the Pentium 4 2.4c, 2.6c?

What about fpu,

I plan on making a rendering node for lightwave 3d software.

DO you think using celerons would be a cheap way to do that.

In the past, render times for LIghtwave on a pIII 500 and a celeron 450mhz, were very close. I would say the only difference I noticed
was in things like window redraw, and disk access.

Do you think that this still holds true today.

DO you think the celeron is faster in rendering than an amd? Amd does not have sseII, and P4's kill amd's in rendering, or so the reviews say.

VitoVonAntwon

 

[lookouthere]

really? Intel is going to introduce 2.6 Celeron with 1mb cache?
Where did you get this news?

 

[Corporate Thug]

i dont think it will match the performance of a 2.6C

 

[Acanthus]

i HIGHLY doubt 1MB of cache.

 

[Corporate Thug]

after barton, i could care less about cache

 

[gplracer]

VitoVonAntwon it will hard to say until the benchmarks come out from users as for performance. I really think a better deal is an AMD system. I like Intel and AMD. Right now AMD is the best bang for the buck. My $72 1700+ runs at 215x11=2365mhz. SiSoftware Sandra says it benchmarks like a P4 at 3444mhz. Granted that is just one benchmark others would put the Intel ahead. Although not many benchmarks would put the P4 2.4ghz ahead. The AMD chip is just faster than that one. Granted not all AND chips overclock this much but almost all 1700+ chips will do 2000mhz and at that speed it still beats a 2.4ghz P4 in price and performance. Newegg sells the 1700+ for under $50. Also my Epox 8RDA+ was only $90 and had 5 channel surround sound that is better than my Audigy which is sitting here on my desk. Next year if Intel is the best deal I would get that. And it might be the best deal if Intel is the first to come out with PCI Express systems. I am not trying to crap your thread. I just thought you should look into this option too if the best system for the money is real important to you. Either Intel or AMD will make you a nice system.

 

[VitoVonAntwon]

Here is the link that I got that info.

I will say that the amd is great for most applications. But I do lightwave 3d rendering, that's about all I care about for a low cost machine.
By the way, My brother has an amd 1900 and asus a7v, but can't seem to oc it, any ideas on how? Do you have to do anything special
to the chip, like the pencil lead thing on tomshardware? or can you just goto bios and icrease the fsb?


celron 2.6

1mb cache for celeron

ah, thats notebook celeron, I guess the desktop celeron might have 1mb, not sure now.

Antonio

 

[rommelrommel]

Yes, I would say that the 1mb cache will be laptop only and will NOT be $104.

Celerons suck man... A cheap way to do what you want would be a Tbred B XP1700+ overclocked, you should get XP2800+ speed at least, which will rape a Celeron 2.6 gHz.

 

[wicktron]

Celeron = Celery.
It's there, but provides little to no caloric value. Add some peanut butter or ranch, and you've got yourself a P4.

 

[Zap]

What's with all this dissing of Celerons? I've been happy with them since the 300A. Let's see what I've used and messed with...

300A @450
366 @550
400 @600 (needed huge voltage, hehe)
533A @800+
566 @900+
600 @900
800 @1066 (pin-modded to overclock in Shuttle SV24, beautiful)
900 @1200
1.0A @1.4+
1.1A @1.5+
1.2 @1.56
2.0 @2.84

I picked up the 2.0 from Fry's Electronics just before Christmas. It was $99 for an OEM CPU with an MSI 645E Pro motherboard. CPU runs nice and cool with a $9 HSF at overclocked speeds and is nice and stable.

 

[VitoVonAntwon]

The problem with amd is that there is no sseII , p4 and celeron have sseII.

Apparently in the tests anandtech does, the p4 2.4 even beats out the fastest amd 3200 in rendering.
This I am not sure is true. Maybe I'll start a thread about lightwave benchmarks.
I have a friend who says that his amd runs very fast compared to his 2.0 p4 laptop. (sorry forgot what amd he had.)

My bro has an 1900 amd, not overclocked, and it is quite fast. In fact his rendering times compared to my old piii500 are, 1 hour 14 min for piii, 13 min for amd 1900.
This was a test of a scene we both had. I'm thinking a p4 2.8c would have done it in mabye 4 min. SInce it has sseII and is faster clock.

Thanks for all the info guys. Very interesting.

VitoVonAntwon