Celeron Dual Core E1200 preview

[NoobyDoo]

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Edit : e1400 coming Q2, 2G & 53$.

 

[Duvie]

how much?

 

[NoobyDoo]

$53 (?)

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[Duvie]

That price is mainly for the fact it is 1/8 the cache of the normal chip. The good old celery chips.....

Couple that with an integrated mobo and someone could have a damn nice computer for very cheap....

 

[zach0624]

Nice oc on a cheap chip, probably will suck in games though. wonder if they will be stuck at 400mhz like the e2xxx and e4xxx are?

 

[Replay]

Can't joke about the Pentium E2xxx being a "dual-Celeron" anymore. Now there really is a dual Celeron.

Shame these have no more cache than the current single core conroe-L celerons. 512+512 would have bumped into the E2xxx, but even a little more cache would have been nice.

The SuperPi benchmark is no better than what I've seen with the 512K cache Celeron 420 at 3.2G, and 3 seconds slower than the 1M cache E2140 at 3.2GHz.

 

[The-Noid]

I hope they build these into an integrated motherboard. Would be great for a cheap internet pc. Running linux off flash/cd.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
I hope they build these into an integrated motherboard.

You mean like the Intel D201GLY2 board? It is a mini ITX board with integrated everything and a 1.2GHz Celeron M-ish soldered on, for around $80.

 

[The-Noid]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
I hope they build these into an integrated motherboard.

You mean like the Intel D201GLY2 board? It is a mini ITX board with integrated everything and a 1.2GHz Celeron M-ish soldered on, for around $80.

exactly what I mean, only now with dualcore goodness, and C2D IPC advancements.

 

[Extelleron]

At that price you'd be better off with an X2 3600+/X2 4000+ for a few dollars more. Even the E2xxx series gets killed sometimes in games/cache-sensitive applications, and with 512KB of cache this thing will probably perform slower clock-for-clock than AMD's CPUs.

 

[GundamF91]

For the not much difference in cost, you can get E2xxx for not much more than 60 bucks, and you'll get more performance. Cache matters.

 

[nonameo]

This would make a good filler processor for those who want to go ahead and build their 45nm systems now.

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: nonameo
This would make a good filler processor for those who want to go ahead and build their 45nm systems now.

Only problem, the dual core Celeron and Wolfdale ship the same day. It's not like this is available now.

 

[quadomatic]

Actually, it is:

http://clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A1938265

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Yoxxy

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Yoxxy
I hope they build these into an integrated motherboard.

You mean like the Intel D201GLY2 board? It is a mini ITX board with integrated everything and a 1.2GHz Celeron M-ish soldered on, for around $80.

exactly what I mean, only now with dualcore goodness, and C2D IPC advancements.

Actually, just saw that Intel board/CPU combo on CostCentral for $66.

 

[GundamF91]

$66 for board and CPU is really good price, but it's performance is limited obviously with the "integrated everything". Like I said before, $10 more on E2140 will get you twice the cache and it'd be worth the slight increase in cost even in day to day use.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: GundamF91
it'd be worth the slight increase in cost even in day to day use.

Depends on your definition of "day to day use." My notebook has a 1.6GHz Dothan Pentium M, and if I'm running on battery I almost always underclock it to the minimum 800MHz for more battery life(at 0.8v using CrystalCPU). My most often used programs are Internet Explorer, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Visual Studio 2005 and IBM VisualAge. The only thing that slows me down are the keyboard and touchpad.

 

[mageslayer]

if its cheap enough, i will build my parents a budget system with this

 

[nyker96]

I also think for 53 it's not worth it. maybe 45. I'd get a 70 buck E2140 if this is 53.

 

[angry hampster]

Originally posted by: nyker96
I also think for 53 it's not worth it. maybe 45. I'd get a 70 buck E2140 if this is 53.

Yup. This would be a great chip to toss in a cheap system for net surfing and basic video viewing. Lack of L2 cache absolutely murders it for games. My A64X2 is bad enough with only 1mb, even though it's overclocked to 3GHz.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I wonder why they named the 1.6Ghz version the 1200, instead of the E1140, matching it up with the E2xxx model numbers.

I'd still buy a $60 E2140 over this thing though.

I bet Intel's OEM customers are getting a really sweet deal on these CPUs though.

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
I'd still buy a $60 E2140 over this thing though.

I'd buy the $85 E2180 over the E2140. The only way these low buck CPU's make any sense is on a $50 MB, which you can't OC.

I bet Intel's OEM customers are getting a really sweet deal on these CPUs though.

Since cache takes more die space than the core, can you imagine how many E1200 dies Intel gets on a 300mm wafer. A bizillion.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: 21stHermit

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
I'd still buy a $60 E2140 over this thing though.

I'd buy the $85 E2180 over the E2140. The only way these low buck CPU's make any sense is on a $50 MB, which you can't OC.

I haven't seen the E2180 to have significantly more overclockability than the E2140, although I know someone that got their E2200 to 3.35Ghz, with a GeminII cooler. (85C load temps though.)

Originally posted by: 21stHermit

I bet Intel's OEM customers are getting a really sweet deal on these CPUs though.

Since cache takes more die space than the core, can you imagine how many E1200 dies Intel gets on a 300mm wafer. A bizillion.

Yeah. I wonder if they are making a seperate die for the E1200, or if they are all dies with failed cache, from a higher-series CPU.

 

[NoobyDoo]

e1400 coming Q2, 2G & 53$.

Translated from HKEPC

According to Taiwan's motherboard industry, Intel in the January 20 release Celeron E1200's first dual-core processor, the scheme launched in the second quarter of Celeron E1400 core clock to further improve, but single-core Celeron and will not be replaced , according to Intel processors planning, single-core Celeron 400 family will live until at least the first quarter of 2009.
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First Model for the Celeron E1200 core clock of 1.6 GHz, at 1000 price for each $ 53 dollars, but the processor will be maintained one quarter Celeron E1400 will be replaced at the same price per 1,000 $ 53 dollars, but the core clock will be upgraded to 2 GHz, further enhance cost-effective.

 

[nonameo]

Originally posted by: 21stHermit

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
I'd still buy a $60 E2140 over this thing though.

I'd buy the $85 E2180 over the E2140. The only way these low buck CPU's make any sense is on a $50 MB, which you can't OC.

I bet Intel's OEM customers are getting a really sweet deal on these CPUs though.

Since cache takes more die space than the core, can you imagine how many E1200 dies Intel gets on a 300mm wafer. A bizillion.

Not if it's an allendale core. The CPU is built with 2mb, and the rest is later disabled to make 21x series and 1xxx series CPUS.