Celeron D 320

[Zap]

I just picked up a Celeron D 320 (retail box) from Fry's with an FIC P4-865P Ultra motherboard (865P chipset) for $89.99 plus tax. Suprisingly the motherboard has nearly full overclocking features such as FSB 100-400, Vcore, VAGP, VDIMM. However, being that this chipset doesn't officially support 800MHz FSB and this board does not have chipset voltage adjustments, I haven't been able to go higher than about 175MHz FSB (around 3.15GHz).

Seeing that this CPU is at Newegg for $79, not too bad of an $11 motherboard, eh?

Next, to see what this CPU can do on my Asus P4P800 Deluxe...

Overclocking fun on a budget. This might prove to be more entertaining than my Mobile Celerons (which W/O the pin mod doesn't POST on most of my boards).

I used to spend much more money for entertainment in strip clubs.

 

[Yanagi]

Originally posted by: Zap
I used to spend much more money for entertainment in strip clubs.

LOL. If you get bored of that combo, send it over to my way. And keep us updated how it will do in your other board

 

[Zebo]

Sounds like a ripoff. I got a sempron and mobo for $49 from frys today. We should do some comparisons OC or not does'nt matter.

I never been in a strip club because the price/performance ratio is like a celeron.. high price..low performance.

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: Zebo

I never been in a strip club because the price/performance ratio is like a celeron.. high price..low performance.

ha. one of the best analogies for a celeron i've ever read.

 

[Zap]

Actually I get much better price/performance ratio at certain strip clubs.

Which Sempron did you get

 

[Zebo]

Zap, 2400, pretty sure celeron will have a slight lead, stock, but not 80% lead to justify it's price.

 

[Zap]

Well, I re-checked the motherboard BIOS. Still no chipset voltage option (hey, was tired last night).

A good CPU for this board would be the P4 2.4B I have (yanked out of a Toshiba notebook, but turned out to be a normal desktop CPU). Got today off so I plan to use it wisely, by putting this Celeron D on my Asus board. Will post highest POSTing results here. :laugh: Once I've played around with how high I can get it to POST, maybe I'll hook up a hard drive and install Winblows for some testing/benchmarking.

Zebo, if I purchase another Socket A CPU (other than Fry's specials, LOL) I'll get another mobile. Got a mobile 2400+ 35W unit in my Shuttle SN45G. Runs great at default but seems quirky overclocked. I got it as a refurb - maybe has been "pretested" for overclockability and found lacking? A friend has the same chip bought new, running in a Shuttle AN35N at 12.5x200=2500. The 35W CPU is already jacked in pricing at Newegg, contemplating snapping up one of the other ones before the price gets jacked also.

Speaking of jacked prices, what's with the Sempron 3100 being only $3 cheaper than an A64 2800 at Newegg?

 

[Zap]

Well, I'll have to see a 4GHz POST some other day. Maximum POST is at 3.97GHz on a 221MHz FSB with this Celeron. It sure does POST higher than one of my Prescott 2.4A chips which max out at around 3.5XXGHz (other one is in a system running 24x7, haven't tried).

Something about this Asus P4P800 Deluxe... won't POST if I set Vcore above 1.60. This is just like my MSI PT880 motherboard which doesn't even have settings above 1.60, but I used the wire trick. The clock speed can be default, if the Vcore goes above 1.60, no POST. My Abit IS7 seems to POST fine at higher Vcore, plus the cheap FIC board I got in the Celeron D bundle works fine with higher Vcore. If only the FIC board used the 865PE chipset instead of the 865P, or if only it allowed higher chipset voltage...

Some day I'll have to replace the IS7 in my main machine with something else, so that I can play with the IS7.

 

[Stormgiant]

Originally posted by: Zap
Well, I'll have to see a 4GHz POST some other day. Maximum POST is at 3.97GHz on a 221MHz FSB with this Celeron. It sure does POST higher than one of my Prescott 2.4A chips which max out at around 3.5XXGHz (other one is in a system running 24x7, haven't tried).

That's because they share the same core, but the celerons has 1/4 of the cache, so it has the tendency to overclock more.

Originally posted by: Zap
Something about this Asus P4P800 Deluxe... won't POST if I set Vcore above 1.60. This is just like my MSI PT880 motherboard which doesn't even have settings above 1.60, but I used the wire trick. The clock speed can be default, if the Vcore goes above 1.60, no POST.

It's a bug on the P4P series. They don't boot with 1.625 and 1.650. If you try 1.675 it will boot, but that is problably too much, at least for me.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Stormgiant
It's a bug on the P4P series. They don't boot with 1.625 and 1.650. If you try 1.675 it will boot, but that is problably too much, at least for me.

Dang, you got me all hot and bothered for nothing. Tried higher voltages, still no POST. I'm running the setup with a Thermalright XP-120, so not too worried about heat. Ah well.

 

[Stormgiant]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Stormgiant
It's a bug on the P4P series. They don't boot with 1.625 and 1.650. If you try 1.675 it will boot, but that is problably too much, at least for me.

Dang, you got me all hot and bothered for nothing. Tried higher voltages, still no POST. I'm running the setup with a Thermalright XP-120, so not too worried about heat. Ah well.

LOL. Maybe you got a chup that doesn't like high voltage. My 3.0C booted at 1.675V but was way too much for me. Not worth the extra 1% in Mhz increase with that.

 

[Zap]

Hmmm, maybe the motherboard won't allow higher voltages with Prescott chips. I know it has settings for really high voltages. I wouldn't necessarily run it at super high voltages, I just wanted to see it POST at 4GHz or more. That's a personal milestone for me.

 

[Stormgiant]

Sorry, wasn't thinking....

Yes, with Prescott above 1.6V there is a very good change of burning something. Just seen many friends blowing up P4P and P4C because of the 2.4A...

 

[Stormgiant]

Originally posted by: Zap
Hmmm, maybe the motherboard won't allow higher voltages with Prescott chips. I know it has settings for really high voltages. I wouldn't necessarily run it at super high voltages, I just wanted to see it POST at 4GHz or more. That's a personal milestone for me.

There are many tricks to get to some points....

Check this Pic 4047Mhz

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Stormgiant
Just seen many friends blowing up P4P and P4C because of the 2.4A...

Hmmm, maybe that's what happened to my P4C800-E Deluxe. Well, I was running a Mobile Celeron 1.6 on that board and suddenly the board wouldn't POST anymore, and would make a buzzing noise around the CPU socket area. Wasn't even pushing it.

 

[kautilya]

Thats a coincidence!! same thing happened to my friend only i got the blame as i was using the comp

 

[Zap]

Update:

I saw the Celeron D 320 CPU POST at 4.01GHz (18x223). This was on an MSI 865PE Neo2-P motherboard using a Thermaltake Spark 5 (turned all the way up, sounds like a blowdryer).

I ended up trading it to my buddy. He traded me a Shuttle AN35N, Mobile Athlon XP2400+ (35W), Thermalright ALX-800 with Panaflo 12M fan for the MSI board, Celeron D 320 and the Spark 5. Oh yeah, he also threw in $80 for me to do the work in swapping the parts in his case (my board wasn't even in a case).

The Asus board would POST reliably at 18x221=3.97GHz, but wouldn't POST any higher. The MSI board will POST at 18x223=4.01GHz, but very unreliably - dies when saving CMOS settings, sometimes locks in CMOS, etc. Only POSTs on a cold boot. Both setups were done at 1.60v.

I've seen my 4GHz POST so I'm satisfied. Plus, I got good trade value out of the CPU. Double bonus. These Celeron D processors aren't so bad after all. :laugh: