Celeron 800/100FSB or PentiumIII 700E?

[steimm]

What's the best:

Celeron 800MHz / 100 Mhz FSB or Pentium III 700E?
And why?
Best for overclocking?
Best overall rating?

/Steimm

 

[MCS]

Pentium 3, hands down, for every reason.

A Celeron 800 is barely faster than a P3-600, and the 700E should overclock like a champ. Many, many people have run these chips up to 933Mhz on a 133Mhz Front Side Bus.

 

[Killrose]

I second what MCS said. Look at the price of a PIII 700E, it's probably cheaper than the CII 800.

 

[dethman]

p3. should oc to 933...and is probably same price. dont buy celeron, especially now. they're expensive and underperform.

you know what...actually just buy AMD.

 

[SCSIfreek]

double what dethman said. come join the Ghz clue with the same price you'll pay for a P3 or C II. Like Nike has always said "Just get it"


--SCSI

 

[bacillus]

if you want a neutered p3 then get the celeron!

 

[Supradude]

P3's rock celerons... the only chance a Celeron II has of performing to p3 standards is if it has an extra ~300 MHz & higher FSB on the P3...

 

[Drifter]

I'm with SCSIfreek

 

[lifeguard1999]

As if the above wasn't enough....

Ditto.

But then again, I am biased ... 700E@933

 

[Grendel99]

P3-700 no questions about it Mine is running at 966 (138fsb) 1.75 volts Did 933 stock voltage.

 

[Regalk]

Been there - Have a P3 700E at 933 but not fast enough for me - my other rigs with a TBird 800 @980 and Duron 600 at 979 kills it. The P3 -933 is currently mothballed/sometimes light office stuff/internet if I feel up to it.

 

[osage]

what everyone else said, get the P3 .

 

[Wingznut]

Purchase a guaranteed overclocked 700e, from either Compuwiz1 or Bonkers on the For Sale forums.

 

[steimm]

OK, I think I get that PII 700 E is THE choice

Is PII700E the same as PIII700Coppermine?
What is cCO? Is that Coppermine?
What is the difference between 700E and 700EB? Which one is the best?

Regards

/Steimm

 

[Wingznut]

700e = Coppermine = .18 micron technology.

There's no such thing as a 700eb. But if there were, the 'b' would indicate that it runs on a 133mhz frontside bus.

Cco is the latest stepping ("revision", if you will) for the cpu. Generally, these will overclock better than the previous steppings.

 

[steimm]

I've read at a site that they sell 700E/100MHz FCPGA and 700EB/100MHz Slot-1 so according to that site it's not the busspeed that makes the B. Any other ideas what it can be?

I've also seen that there is 800EB/133MHz FCPGA, 800EB/100MHz Slot-1, 800E/100Mhz FCPGA and 800EB/133MHz... I'm getting really confused about this E and EB thing...

Regards
/Steimm

 

[jeremy806]

E means Coppermine.

B means 133 MHz bus.

For everyone knocking the Celeron @800, if you buy the 533A Celeron and OC, you are getting some good performance for a $60 CPU.

At the time I bought my Celeron 533A, P3s were still quite expensive. At today's prices, it is hard to pass up the P3-700. So, it all comes down to what you want to spend.

Jeremy806

 

[Wingznut]

"E means Coppermine. B means 133 MHz bus."

jeremy is very much correct. Those websites are inaccurate.

It's true that there are 800e's and 800eb's. Again, the 'b' notating a 133mhz fsb. But there is no such thing as a 700eb.

 

[flatv8]

Get the cC0 700E, very nice chip on a CUSL2, mine does 1000 w/ only 1.75v setting, actually MBM says 1.78 but it runs pretty cool, 34*c - 38*c

 

[Innoka]

Some of the above is neither truthful nor useful. The cheapest celeron is less than half the price of the cheapest P!!! and will overclock in greater proportion.
Celeron 950/100 performs just like a P!!! 800/100, not 300mhz slower. Benchmarks are on Anandtech also.
If you change your board, change to AMD also. P!!! does not give value compared to an overclocked duron.

 

[Rand]

Go with the P3 700E over the Celeron 800.
P3 700 will o/c better than an 800MHz Celery, and even with the 100MHz FSB the Celeron 800 it still only around the P3 600MHz in performance.


In reference to the Pentium 3 naming scheme, E denotes on-die 256KB L2 cache which in turn means it's a Coppermine rather than the older Katmai Pentium3. And the B denotes 133MHz FSB.

Any store advertising otherwise is incorrect. you can confirm the above on intel's website if you wish to be sure.