ceiling fan wiring help

iroast

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fan has 2 parts: blades and lights. if i were to remove the lights, how do i terminate the white & black wires? i believe the black wires are ground wires.

thanks.
 

funboy6942

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I believe it is opposite for house wiring where the black is the hot lead and the white is the ground. My bad I said power where it was supposed to be ground since the white wire is the hot one :p
Sorry bout that. I hope you understood that I ment ground in the first place since I told you the hot wire was white already.
 

iroast

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do i just put them together and use a wire nut? or does each wire need its own wire nut?

The two wires in question are similar to these in arrangement:

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funboy6942

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Originally posted by: iroast
do i just put them together and use a wire nut? or does each wire need its own wire nut?

The two wires in question are similar to these in arrangement:

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If you dont want your house to burn down I do not reccomend you twist the black and white wires together. You sould use a wire nut on each and keep them seperated from each other and PLEASE tell me you have the power cut off to the unit before you go touching it :D
 

amish

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doesn't your fan have a power connector for the lights similar to a molex connector? how old is it?
 

olds

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Originally posted by: funboy42
I believe it is opposite for house wiring where the black is the hot lead and the white is the power.

There is some bad advice here.
 

Shame

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: funboy42
I believe it is opposite for house wiring where the black is the hot lead and the white is the power.

There is some bad advice here.

Can we have pics of the fire?
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: Shame
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: funboy42
I believe it is opposite for house wiring where the black is the hot lead and the white is the power.

There is some bad advice here.

Can we have pics of the fire?

OK asshats:
Most commonly ceiling fans will have 4 wires, or 3 wires plus a ground. Black, white, green, and an additional color (usually red, blue, or black/white striped). The black wire is the hot lead for the fan motor. The red/blue/striped wire is the hot lead for the optional light kit. The white wire is the neutral lead for both the fan motor and light kit. The green wire is ground for the entire assembly.

Taken from a how to fan instalation.
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: Shame
Hmmm. Advice on avoiding fires from a guy named "Funboy". I dunno... :p

I swear my mind said ground for the black one as I was typing that out I dont know how I got power.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: Shame
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: funboy42
I believe it is opposite for house wiring where the black is the hot lead and the white is the power.

There is some bad advice here.

Can we have pics of the fire?

OK asshats:
Most commonly ceiling fans will have 4 wires, or 3 wires plus a ground. Black, white, green, and an additional color (usually red, blue, or black/white striped). The black wire is the hot lead for the fan motor. The red/blue/striped wire is the hot lead for the optional light kit. The white wire is the neutral lead for both the fan motor and light kit. The green wire is ground for the entire assembly.

Taken from a how to fan instalation.

That's great. You looked it up after you posted. If you don't know the answer, there is no reason to try and bluff your way through it and possibly hurt someone. :roll: It's not like everyone is hanging on your every word.
 

funboy6942

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I knew it was opposite because I installed my fan in my room. I messed up for some reason and said power to the black one and didnt catch it till you all quoted me and couldnt figure out why you would of. Then I saw I wrote power for some reason when I ment ground.

But if you were nice you could of just said "hey you mean white is ground dont you?"
 

olds

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Originally posted by: funboy42
I knew it was opposite because I installed my fan in my room. I messed up for some reason and said power to the black one and didnt catch it till you all quoted me and couldnt figure out why you would of. Then I saw I wrote power for some reason when I ment ground.

But if you were nice you could of just said "hey you mean white is ground dont you?"

White is not ground.
 

funboy6942

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Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: funboy42
I knew it was opposite because I installed my fan in my room. I messed up for some reason and said power to the black one and didnt catch it till you all quoted me and couldnt figure out why you would of. Then I saw I wrote power for some reason when I ment ground.

But if you were nice you could of just said "hey you mean white is ground dont you?"

White is not ground.

It is in his case of only having the two wires. If he had the three wires then YES green would of been the ground. The white is the common ground in home wiring where the green is one that would go to a ground source following a ground for the entire home to a ground point somewhere going into the ground. He has white and black. Black is your power source and the white is the common netural ground to complete the circut.

In all cases the neutral (white) wire from the fan assembly should be attached to the neutral (usually white) lead from the house wiring. Note that if you encounter a white wire with a marking piece of colored tape attached, this could be used to signifiy it is being used as something other than a neutral.

The ground (green) wire or wires from the fan assembly should be attached to the ground (usually bare, sometimes green) lead from the house wiring. Some older houses may not have a separate ground lead and use the metal conduit and electrical boxes as ground. In this case you would attach the ground wire from the fan to the electrical box (and/or mounting plate) with the appropriate screw or clip.