• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

CeBIT: Stable 5 GHz Prescott on phase change?!?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Originally posted by: Thor86
Pretty much confirms one thing. Air cooling has reached its limit. I'm going to guess 4ghz is not attainable even with the LOUDEST air cooling that is available at your friendly hardware vendor. 🙂

Supercooling took P4s to 4ghz when they were topping at 2.8ghz... It always dramatically increases the overclock. When you take a cpu below ambient temps (far below in this case with phase change) you drastically increase your overclock ceiling.
 
The cooling method doesn't have much to do with the frequency the processor is running at, it's all about the heat generated. They need to find a way to reduce the heat generated and then air cooling will be perfectly fine. Somehow I doubt processors will ship with water cooling setups even in the next 5 years. Water cooling is just not practical, they'll just find ways to make processors run cooler.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
The cooling method doesn't have much to do with the frequency the processor is running at, it's all about the heat generated. They need to find a way to reduce the heat generated and then air cooling will be perfectly fine. Somehow I doubt processors will ship with water cooling setups even in the next 5 years. Water cooling is just not practical, they'll just find ways to make processors run cooler.

This isnt exactly true... There is a "clock ceiling" for designs that can only be increased with supercooling.

For example, the 2.4Bs hitting 2.8ghz on air didnt have any heat problems, it was just the limit of that steppings designs. But, with vapochill/prometia they were able to hit 3.7ghz and beyond.
 
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
The cooling method doesn't have much to do with the frequency the processor is running at, it's all about the heat generated. They need to find a way to reduce the heat generated and then air cooling will be perfectly fine. Somehow I doubt processors will ship with water cooling setups even in the next 5 years. Water cooling is just not practical, they'll just find ways to make processors run cooler.

This isnt exactly true... There is a "clock ceiling" for designs that can only be increased with supercooling.

For example, the 2.4Bs hitting 2.8ghz on air didnt have any heat problems, it was just the limit of that steppings designs. But, with vapochill/prometia they were able to hit 3.7ghz and beyond.
Yeah, but they do always advance CPUs. I remember reading about an OC in a guy's freezer, but it's pathetically slow to what we can get with air now.

 
Back
Top