CDC surveillance ...for your safety, of course

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repoman0

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Surveillance testing is the appropriate term. It’s been in common use since testing became widely available. My university certainly uses it for their on site walk in testing that they offer to staff and recommend we participate in weekly.
 

Moonbeam

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I mean it’s a place where they literally xray your belongings and subject you to a backscatter scan of your entire body after your name is run through a government database to screen you for possibly suspicious activity.

What I would say is if personal privacy were a priority of mine I don’t think the CDC checking to see if I was infected with a deadly, highly contagious virus would be the thing I objected to.
Me Too. The thing I worry about most is the government finding out how often I soil my underwear when I hear the word socialism.
 

nOOky

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I had to have a negative covid test done in Zurich airport before the U.S would allow me back in in August. It tickled a bit, so I went to the bar and had a beer or two, and the stoopid bartender asked for my ID to drink. I'm 53 and I look like I'm 63, what about my freedom and rights?! I had to wear a ask when I wasn't drinking too, so I drank a lot to negate the quashing of my individual liberty to infect others.

Then they dug through my luggage, asked me what I was doing on vacation, and made me grovel in front of some self-important customs agent that could have me strip and cavity searched if I eyeballed him the wrong way. (That's a hemorrhoid if you've never seen one sir). I had to fill out a piece of paper before I could get back into my country, another covid declaration. I should have just snuck over the border, my conservative friends tell me that they just throw money at illegals to buy democrat votes. I suppose they would have thrown me in a cage with some Mexican illegal babies until they figured out I was legal, and sent me on my way back to a boring life or working my life away and stressing so I have money to spend on useless material objects.
 
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Other forms are monitoring sewers. We poop out covid. In fact, it's pretty highly concentrated there. It's how major municipalities can keep an eye on community covid levels...we all poop...when levels go up it's safe to assume community spread is up too.

Monitoring outgoing sewage in airports (and universities) can give an idea at a smaller level how much active Covid is in their facilities.
 
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TheVrolok

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That's my bad. Guess i read surveilance and got triggered.

Another blackangst 1 fail.

They should change it from surveillance to random testing IMHO.
Honestly props for the admission, no troll.

Some of this may be the colloquial use of surveillance (literally watching) vs medical. I use the word on a nearly daily basis to mean "close monitoring" by many means that are not "visual."
 

blackangst1

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Honestly props for the admission, no troll.

Some of this may be the colloquial use of surveillance (literally watching) vs medical. I use the word on a nearly daily basis to mean "close monitoring" by many means that are not "visual."
I was today years old when i learned surveillance meant something other that's visual. Guess I'm out of touch.

Edit: and/or audio. Never thought it would mean randomly plucking someone out based on arriving flight.
 
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ch33zw1z

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I was today years old when i learned surveillance meant something other that's visual. Guess I'm out of touch.

Edit: and/or audio. Never thought it would mean randomly plucking someone out based on arriving flight.

It just means monitoring. Whether it's audio, video, capturing packets, etc...that's all it means.
 

pmv

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It's the virus they are keeping under surveillance, not us. We're less interesting than a virus.
 

Zorba

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Surveillance is a weird word to use in regards to random testing for an airborne disease. Should be something like CDC to start random screenings of passengers at airports.
It's a word that has been used for disease monitoring for a long time.
 
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MrSquished

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It's a word that has been used for disease monitoring for a long time.
I had no clue. And I've been reading a decent amount of articles on covid. It's not common usage among the laymen. Always good to learn something new m
 

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Yeah root of surveil is just to "monitor or observe". That's a widely applicable definition.
 
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Zorba

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I had no clue. And I've been reading a decent amount of articles on covid. It's not common usage among the laymen. Always good to learn something new m
I learned about it at the very beginning of COVID, I think it was The Daily talked to a surveillance program in Seattle that developed their own test and were trying to skirt the (at the time) ridiculous FDA rules. They normally looked for flu and RSV.
 

woolfe9998

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While this has nothing to do with cameras or anything like that it’s also kind of funny to be worried about surveillance and privacy in an airport.

You know, the place where the airlines share passenger data with the government, the place that’s covered with cameras, the place where you have to submit ID to be allowed in, the place where you must consent to search on demand, etc. etc.

Funny that you make this argument, since there is a large sized exception to the 4th amendment for airports. It's why TSA can search you without a warrant. Same exception applies for DUI checkpoints and other limited situations.
 

fskimospy

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Funny that you make this argument, since there is a large sized exception to the 4th amendment for airports. It's why TSA can search you without a warrant. Same exception applies for DUI checkpoints and other limited situations.
I think both are terrible.
 

JTsyo

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I guess I'm not smart enough to know surveillance didn't mean without cameras. That's what it's always meant.
Never watch a movie or cop show where they have audio surveillance by tapping phones?
Funny that you make this argument, since there is a large sized exception to the 4th amendment for airports. It's why TSA can search you without a warrant. Same exception applies for DUI checkpoints and other limited situations.
Just airports or within 100 miles of an international airport? This seems to say within 100 miles of border or coast.
 

NWRMidnight

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I guess I'm not smart enough to know surveillance didn't mean without cameras. That's what it's always meant.
Medical surveillance has NEVER been tied to cameras. You seem to have your panties in knots over your ignorance of the term survivance, and about what the CDC does.
 

NWRMidnight

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That's my bad. Guess i read surveilance and got triggered.

Another blackangst 1 fail.

They should change it from surveillance to random testing IMHO.
I am shocked, you owned up. Amazing. But then you stick your foot right back in your mouth, expecting them to use a different term because of your own ignorance that caused your failure.

In all seriousness though, I commend you admitting your mistake.
 
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