CD-RW Programs that can burn exact copies 1:1

[elfnumber1]

I'm interested in all the various programs that can burn or backup exact copies of originals 1:1. The only one I know of is CloneCD, and currently use it with my LiteOn. I recently obtained a TDK and it is not supported under CloneCD. I'd like to make 1:1 copies with my TDK, but I'd also like some information as which softwares do which things, which burn certain copyrights and whatnot.

Anyhow, is there a site that will let me know all the softwares and a little info on each? Ok let me know guys. Thanks.

elf

 

[kt]

to make an exact copy of a CD like what CloneCD does, i think the CD burner needs to be able to write in a certain mode. So, if it's not CloneCD supported I highly doubt it will be supported on any other software.

 

[elfnumber1]

Ok, but I'd still like to know which softwares are out there. Maybe it is supported by some of the others; it's model number:

AI-241040B

elf

 

[grifterspawn]

Are you sure? It shows TDK's 24x burners as supported here. Here is some of the latest firmware...possibly for your drive. Make sure you obtain the model number from within windows using something like Nero/clonecd/fireburner/cdrwin or even Windows Device Manager.

 

[elfnumber1]

Model number is correct, I've checked in both Windows Device Manager and Nero Drivespeed:

AI-241040B V57S2

I don't know what the new firmware does, but there is a newer version out for me to DL. I've seen CloneCd's website a million times and it's obviously not on there (this TDK I own). As a matter of fact it does show TDK burners are supported, but not ALL TDK burners are. Just like not all Sony burners or LiteOn's or so on and so forth.

So, I ask again, can anyone list out the softwares out there that can create a 1:1 copy of an original CD? What the pros/cons are? Or better yet, instead of typing it all out, how 'bout a website that will list all the good ones and give a brief description? Hope I'm not asking too much.

elf

ps: Does Max Payne have any copyright on it? I have a burned copy but I do not believe my friend copied it with any special software's. Oh, and it doesn't work on my computer after installation. Thanks.

 

[PliotronX]

BlindWrite is about as good as CloneCD, I think it has less drive support though (I don't know for sure as most of my experience is with CloneCD), and DiscJuggler is another good one, but I have never used it (just basing this suggestion from its popularity). Both provide trial versions that you can use before deciding to buy so you can see if they work with your TDK.

 

[grifterspawn]

Well flash it at least and try again...I'll be damned if I know why it isnt supported though, even my OLD mitsumi was.
Ok, further research proves your drive is a rebadged Lite-on...now since I have that drive and it works great with ALL programs, its definitely TDK that is sucking...pray for firmware that allows you to flash the drive to a Liteon.

 

[NeoMadHatter]

BlindWrite and CloneCD. i swear your CD burner works with clonecd cuz my brother has the same burner and uses the program. you should flash the bios of the burner. i do that to my plextor whenever a new one comes out.

 

[elfnumber1]

Ok, thanks for all the input guys.

- I just DLed the flash for the TDK, but it doesn't say anything about it flashing to a LiteOn drive.

- The model number of the TDK I have does not reflect the same model number as my LiteOn (LTR-24104B), thus I cannot assume that my TDK is a rebag LiteOn. Unless someone cares to tell me it is, I have no idea which brand an "AI" is.

- Blindwrite and Discjuggler are about the same as CloneCD? I will try those programs out as well.

- One more thing, before I flash of course I'm gonna read about how to do it, but is there any recommendations on what I should do to prep it or something I shouldn't do, so I do not ruin my drive?

Thanks again guys.

elf

 

[DefRef]

I've got a rebabdged LiteON TDK burner and it works fine with CloneCD. I think it even handles SafeDisk 2. Have you tried to use it or are you just going by the website list.

 

[NeoMadHatter]

umm, well, the plextor firmware update is an exe that runs in windows and does it. i think the TDK one is the same. anyways, it takes like 2min to do it. and doesn't usually screw up. what you should do, is see if you can get the firmware that you currently have and keep it as a backup if the new one fails. good luck. you should be fine though. it's not surgery. i remember, flashing an Acer 4x 2years ago. it had to do it in DOS, man that was hell.

 

[elfnumber1]

DefRef,

What is the EXACT model number of your TDK? Mine states: AI-241040B, is this what your's says?

The TDK firmware update is an executable file and if it is as easy as double clicking I am going to do it. I thought you needed to do this like flashing a BIOS of a motherboard: getting the utility and booting with the disk made. Anyhow, confirm and I'll do it right away.

Also, I have tried burning with CloneCD twice and both times were unsuccessful.

I looked into BlindWrite program and the TDK I own is supported by this software.

elf

 

[NeoMadHatter]

yea, it's really easy. here's all you have to do. taken from the TDK site. Is that the exe that you downloaded? or am i at the wrong site?


Firmware - 24/10/40X Model ONLY
*Newest Firmware upgrade for the veloCD 24/10/40X model ONLY.
Not to be used with veloCD 24/10/40B model (refer to print on face plate of drive for exact model of your drive)

Download to desktop.
Locate the CDRW241040x_6v36.zip file on the desktop and unzip to desktop.
Double click the Winflash icon on desktop.
A box WinFlash dialog box will open.
Click the "Browse" button and select the file named "bp15_v36.bin"
Click Open.
Click the Flash/Execute button.
Reboot your system for changes to take effect.
Firmware upgrade 6v36
Link

 

[DefRef]

TDK had their 24/10/40 burners made by Sanyo and LiteON. The early ones (with the X suffix) had blue trays with WHITE faceplates. Those were the Sanyos. They also had BURN-Proof.

The LiteONs have BLUE faceplates, a label reading "24/10/40B" and list their buffer underrun protection as Smart-BURN. The flash thing from TDK is NOT for the LiteON one.

AFAIK, TDK did NOT have any Plextor drives in their 24X line. My 12/10/32 TDK WAS a Plextor, but the new one is a LiteON.

What are you trying to copy and how are you setting CloneCD up?

 

[elfnumber1]

DefRef,

You are correct (thank for your help so far btw). The TDK site does not have a firmware update for the LiteOn drive. I do have the LiteOn then if this you are correct about it. White drive with clear blue cd tray bezel.

This poses another set of questions:

1) When I flash then, do I use the firmware for the TDK drive or for the LiteOne drive? Right now I have the firmware from this site listed under TDK Cyclone/VeloCD 241040B 57S4.

2) If I wanted my computer to recognize the drive as the LTR-24104B, how would I go about doing that? Could I even do that?

3) Is it necessary to do that? What would the advantages/dissadvantages be?

-elf

 

[elfnumber1]

Sorry, one more question:

What are these two DL's?

Taken from TDK's Website

-elf

 

[DefRef]

You need to chill a moment. You still haven't answered WHAT you're trying to copy and HOW you've configured CloneCD to copy it. All you've said is that you've tried it twice and are now on a crusade to find the Magic Firmware Flash that will turn your drive into something else. Relax and answer the questions, mmmkay?

 

[elfnumber1]

Solly,

Let's see, I installed CloneCD and started using it. I never have to configure it before. I do the basics of burning with it. I tried to make an 1:1 copy of Win2k, didn't work. Then I plugged in my LiteOn, tried it once, burnt just fine, no problems.

Do I need to reinstall CloneCD? Anyhow, I just updated the firmware, it was as easy as double clicking the exe file. Did it itself. Burner still states TDK, but the firmware is upped.

elf

ps: sorry defref, thanks for your help.

 

[grifterspawn]

OK, first of all make sure you have the most recent version of clonecd. Flashing your TDK to a Liteon can only be done if someone hacks the liteon firmware so that the name string matches your drive, not very difficult for a lot of people to do, myself not included. I have searched and havent located any yet though.