CD players glued shut to combat piracy

Fausto

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Just when you thought record labels had reached a new low in stupid....from newscientist.com


A US record company has issued reviewers with portable CD players that are glued shut to prevent two new albums from being pirated online before their official releases.

Epic Records Group has taken the drastic step of sealing CD players shut and gluing headphones onto them to stop digital copies being made from promotional albums. The albums involved are Riot Act by Pearl Jam and Scarlet's Walk by Tori Amos.

A spokeswoman for Epic told New Scientist: "Obviously we have a problem with piracy and this is one of the ways we're trying to address it. We're trying lots of things."

New albums have appeared early on file sharing networks such as KaZaA, Morpheus and Grokster with a frequency which is alarming record companies. Eminem's The Eminem Show suffered this fate prior to release in May 2002.


Jim Peters, of the UK lobby group Campaign for Digital Rights (CDR), says this latest measure reflects the difficulty of trying to control listeners' use of digital music.


"It's a sign of desperation," Peters told New Scientist. "I think its time for them to start rethinking their business model because it's getting ridiculous."

CDR has been monitoring the music industries efforts to crack down on piracy ever since copy-protected Compact Discs began appearing in record shops. These disks are encoded to play improperly in computer CD drives, which the group argues infringes on fair use.

Some music companies are indeed considering alternative methods to lure listeners away from downloading pirated songs.

Universal, for example, plans to issue a unique code number with each CD copy of Bon Jovi's new album Bounce. This will provide access to a web site with information on priority concert tickets, as well as previously unreleased tracks.




 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: bunker
It took me 10 seconds to think of a workaround for that.

Yup...


Lets see... the player has an audio-out.....my sound card has an audio-in..........hmmmm. ;)

amish
 

Linflas

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Guess they never heard of diagonal cutters or hammers.
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bunker

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: bunker
It took me 10 seconds to think of a workaround for that.

Yup...


Lets see... the player has an audio-out.....my sound card has an audio-in..........hmmmm. ;)

amish
Actually the headphones are glued into the audio out. I was thinking more along the lines of cut the headphone wire and splice in another mini-stereo jack :D.

But the acetone mentioned above would probably work as well, unless they used epoxy and not superglue.

 

Demon-Xanth

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Here's something to think about:

I have access to tools like clip leads that puncture insulation and leave very little visible evidence (meaning I can pipe that to a line in) and I also have access to a current probe (which I can attach to the headphones and pipe the output of that to a line in w/o even marring the wire). Now I'm not a master pirate or anything, but that seemed pretty damn easy to crack :)
 

MrBond

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You guys are missing the most important part of the story!
The albums involved are Riot Act by Pearl Jam
New Pearl Jam album! :) I was just thinking the other day it's been a while since we heard from them.

Pretty clever of them though. Still, if someone wants to distribute the copy, they could just turn the volume up and hold a mic to the headset. Or cut off the headphones and wire a 1/8" plug onto it. You're not going to get a great copy, but it would suffice until the real thing came out for most people.

They have to realize that the people in the music industry who are distributing these CDs are going to find a way to do it. The only real way of stopping it is personallized listening sessions, where reviewers are taken to a central location, searched for recording devices, then allowed to listen to the album while supervised. And the cost of that would far outweigh the "lost sales" due to piracy.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: MrBond
You guys are missing the most important part of the story!
The albums involved are Riot Act by Pearl Jam
New Pearl Jam album! :) I was just thinking the other day it's been a while since we heard from them.

Pretty clever of them though. Still, if someone wants to distribute the copy, they could just turn the volume up and hold a mic to the headset. Or cut off the headphones and wire a 1/8" plug onto it. You're not going to get a great copy, but it would suffice until the real thing came out for most people.

They have to realize that the people in the music industry who are distributing these CDs are going to find a way to do it. The only real way of stopping it is personallized listening sessions, where reviewers are taken to a central location, searched for recording devices, then allowed to listen to the album while supervised. And the cost of that would far outweigh the "lost sales" due to piracy.

You're right, I did miss that.

It's not worth the time to actually try to pirate... :p

amish
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: bunker
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: bunker
It took me 10 seconds to think of a workaround for that.

Yup...


Lets see... the player has an audio-out.....my sound card has an audio-in..........hmmmm. ;)

amish
Actually the headphones are glued into the audio out. I was thinking more along the lines of cut the headphone wire and splice in another mini-stereo jack :D.
That's pretty much what I was thinking. I'm betting both albums mentioned will be available on usenet and other sources by the end of the week.

 

Zenmervolt

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I think that they will be getting back a lot of CD players that have been "accidentally" dropped causing them to break open.

ZV

EDIT: Of course, the sucker may have been "accidentally dropped" 47 times in a row, but they don't have to know that.
 

ElFenix

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lets see... a screwdriver might open it up.

or maybe you can wedge a knife in and pop the cover off. carbon steal meet cheap plastic.
 
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Fausto

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Alex Trebek: MercenaryForHire, you have the board.
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*spinning noise*
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LMAO :D

 

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Go to Kazaa and look to see if it is already there?

lookie what i found on kazaa! :D

look at the length, 40 odd minutes...
whole album or fake, that is the question
 

ElFenix

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probably fake with a droning voice that says "buy my book. buy my book..."
 

BennyD

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i reckon it's a loud screeching that when slowed down says "drink coke" over and over again
 

amnesiac

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And I will again declare that I shall not buy any more CDs until the record industry pries its bloated dome out of its own stank ass.

While we're here and I'm angry, I'll add this: ClearChannel can suck it.
 

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Originally posted by: amnesiac 2.0
And I will again declare that I shall not buy any more CDs until the record industry pries its bloated dome out of its own stank ass.

While we're here and I'm angry, I'll add this: ClearChannel can suck it.

LOL

You guys crack me up.





KeyserSoze

 

ElFenix

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god i hate clear channel. every radio station sounds the same now.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
god i hate clear channel. every radio station sounds the same now.

Yup. Most radio stations are basically just a promotional tool for record labels these days.
 

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
"It's a sign of desperation," Peters told New Scientist.
No sh8! Great thinking like that shows their brain cells are already too rotted from overexposure to garbage like Eminem. :cool: