CC: $1681.99 Sony 42" LCD rear projection (model KDF-E42A10 Grand Wega) + free delivery/setup
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very nice price. waiting for blu-rays and hd-dvds though til i get in the market. then i'll prolly buy the 42" lcd that sceptre will have out by march. Nice find though OP
Good price this week. Last week HH Gregg had it for $1497, but this week prices are back up everywhere. Best Buy showed $1999 in their ad today.
Ya, wanted to get it PM'ed to BB from HH Gregg but without a HH here I needed a recept from a BB store in order to PM. I'll try to PM to CC and pick it up today.
FYI, for those of you fortunate enough to have a "Video Only" B&M locally, you can take this price to them & they'll beat it. (probably by @$100, of course YMMV)
My neighbor just bought this exact tv there Saturday & that's where I bought my 50" & both times they beat the best price locally. Awesome tv's as well, no regrets here even after almost 2 years.
My neighbor just bought this exact tv there Saturday & that's where I bought my 50" & both times they beat the best price locally. Awesome tv's as well, no regrets here even after almost 2 years.
Got back from BB a bit ago. None in-store, but they PM'ed CC and also gave me $150 off a $250 stand since BB.COM was offering a free stand with it.
Good deal I think....
$1699+$399+$100+tax=$2307
Normal Price TV... $2000+tax=$2100+
Good deal I think....
$1699+$399+$100+tax=$2307
Normal Price TV... $2000+tax=$2100+
I have this as well. Have had it for a couple of years.
Picture is wonderful, blacks look black.
Picture is wonderful, blacks look black.
aren't u guys forgetting these Projection needs bulb replacements? Those can cost well over at least 150~250 dollars a year.
4-year service plan covers the bulb.
Like any other TV, there are many ways to increase the life of your TV. Est bulb life is 3 years.
Like any other TV, there are many ways to increase the life of your TV. Est bulb life is 3 years.
This isn't a thread crap just a precaution that everyone needs to check out before they buy a rear projection LCD TV. As far as i know this issue doesn't affect flat panels. I have a friend here at work who has bought 3 sony rear project LCD tvs and all of them have developed color splotches over time. He did buy the extended warranty so tech came to his home and found out that dust was causing the problem but he has had this problem reappear constantly. He had this problem with every one he bought. They might have fixed these problems by now but i wanted everyone to be aware of this issue before they spent their hard earned cash. I sure the guys over at avsforum.com could enlighten you more than me. I am in the market to buy a tv really soon and i think im going to go with a panny edtv plasma. I do not deny this is a good price for this item though.
Note: This screen only has 1280x720 pixels, so it can only do 720p native (although it can downscale 1080i signals). If you want a true HD screen you might want to take a look at that 37" sceptre for $1500 at costco that has 1920x1200 pixels (and can do 1080p native).
It does appear to support HDMI which is important, because HD players (hd dvd/blu ray) wont output HD movies in HD res unless its through a HDMI connection.
It does appear to support HDMI which is important, because HD players (hd dvd/blu ray) wont output HD movies in HD res unless its through a HDMI connection.
1280x720 is true hd.
I own a 1080p dlp set and frankly, its too much resolution. I actually prefer to watch some hd programs on my 42in plasma. Alot of compression artifacts and digital noise is seen on my 61in screen thats not so apparent on the plasma. Of course on pristine HD material, the dlp is jaw dropping.
My sister has this 42in sony, its great for the price. If you can shell out another 500+, get a panasonic 42in hd plasma. You can get the commercial version for around 2100.
btw hd dvd players will have no problems playing on a dvi equipped monitor like the westy 37incher. Since its equipped with HDCP, it will play copy protected material just fine.
I own a 1080p dlp set and frankly, its too much resolution. I actually prefer to watch some hd programs on my 42in plasma. Alot of compression artifacts and digital noise is seen on my 61in screen thats not so apparent on the plasma. Of course on pristine HD material, the dlp is jaw dropping.
My sister has this 42in sony, its great for the price. If you can shell out another 500+, get a panasonic 42in hd plasma. You can get the commercial version for around 2100.
btw hd dvd players will have no problems playing on a dvi equipped monitor like the westy 37incher. Since its equipped with HDCP, it will play copy protected material just fine.
720p is HD, but so is 1080i and 1080p. And even though there's no real 1080p stuff yet, it will be coming. And when it does, 720p native screens wont be able to show the huge increase in detail from 1080 sources.
To me, a mere 1280x720 is not "true" HD, the "true" HD is 1920x1080. However, both are actually HD content. Just that one has more than twice the detail and pixels in the picture (if the source was in that resolution).
In modern gaming, are people satisfied with gaming at 1280x720? Generally, they want to be able to play at 1600x1200 and higher.
Your artifacts are almost certainly from a faulty or crap quality upscaler. Does it also happen with normal 480p stuff?
If you play a 480p dvd on a computer, it should look fine regardless of if your CRT is set to 640x480, 800x600, 1600x1200, or whatever other resolution. It should be similar with a TV set. Otherwise, what would be the point of buying a HD screen if all current dvds and non HD content looks like crap? There's not all that much HD material availible yet.
The upscaler should be able to take in lower resolution input and display them at the native resolution, WITHOUT adding additional artifacts.
Now it might make artifacts in the original film more visible, but your descriptions dont seem to fit that scenario.
Its in the signal. Abc and espn mostly, they compress the sh1t out of their signal and you can really tell with 1080p on a 61in screen. You can still see it on the plasma, but since its a smaller screen, its not as noticeable.
Please stop telling ppl 720 is not hd, regardless of how you feel. When and if 1080p content comes along, you can worry about it then.
For screen sizes less than 50 inches and with a normal viewing distance, resolution is not a critical issue for television viewing, 720p is more than enuff.
The primary advantage with 1080p for now and the immediate future is pc use. Gaming at 1080p is incredible.
Again good deal for this 42in sony set, its built in hd tuner is great. I had made all these plans for an outdoor antenna for my sister, but an indoor antenna picked up all of her locals.
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Or alternatively the Panasonic 42" ED version for about 1/3 the price. link That's what I'm considering getting as the reviews seem good, no bulbs to change, and lower initial investment (since I don't watch a lot of TV, getting one of these would be a pure indulgence for the hour or so I watch a week plus the occasional DVD).
Where did I do that?
Lets review:
You said:
I said:
Of course 720p is HD. The very definition of HD is simply something thats better than standard resolution, like 480p resolution of a normal DVD. Hence, 720p, 1080i, 1080p are all HD.
But if someone can buy a 1080p set for the same price, why should they settle for a 720p?
Thats like saying, no one should be buying motherboards with PCI express graphics slots, since we aren't using the full bandwidth of PCI express.
Or dont buy a motherboard with SATA 3g support because no drives are anywhere close to needing that bandwidth for sustained transfers.
If I'm going to pay $1500 for a TV, I want one as future proof as possible. I dont want to go replacing it every year or two. Now perhaps some people have the money to do that.
Anyway, the most important thing is that an HD set supports HDMI so it can play back HD movies in HD once blu-ray and HD dvd sets start being sold. And this sony 42" one does.
So this is a decent deal. I have no problem with people buying this as long as they know its limitations.
so agp 8x is better than 4x right? rambus is better than ddr, cuz the numbers are higher right?
This car is good, but it doesnt have a hemi in it, as long as you understand its limitations yer ok?
Its not as simple as just reading off the numbers or buying into the marketing hype, you need to know how to apply the technology and figure out which is a useful feature or not. The westinghouse is a good deal, but you are giving up size for it.. Honestly between the 2 i would probably get the westinghouse for myself. I chose this set for my sister since the 1080p was not as important as sheer size in her viewing environment. This set has other issues, but resolution is not one of them.
You are mixing up hdmi and hdcp again. A set can support hdcp without hdmi.
Let's quote the whole thing:
I was contrasting that with your statement that "1280x720 is true hd". Notice how I put quote marks around the word "true" ? Thats quotes as in "so-called true." I'm saying that you may consider 720p to be true HD, but I consider 1080 to be much better HD. HOWEVER, both are HD. "true" hd is a rather pointless term (which I thought I was emphasising with the use of quote marks) since both are actual HD by the very definition of the word.
And actually, AGP 8x was more a marketing ploy than anything else. Nothing ended up using that bandwidth, mostly because no sane game designer would use the slow main memory for most operations. In fact 3dmark showed that when you exceeded the video card texture memory and had to swap from main.
There were benchmarks that benched the same card at 4x and 8x, and most showed no discernable differance.
A similar situation exists currently with SATA 3g hard drives. So far there's no hard drives that even come close to it, so its not something I'd look for in a hard drive. But I'd still put that as a feature to have on a motherboard because drives such as raptor ARE approaching the 150 meg barrier with sustained transfers, and I'm sure some hard drives will pass it sooner or later, and burst transfers will need it far sooner.
When I say I'm fine with people purchasing this if they know its limitations, I'm specifically referring to its ability to display 1080 video at that resolution or having to downscale it. I dont want people buying it expecting to show the full glory of 1080 video, when it cannot. Does that mean this sucks? Of course not. Does that mean that a 1080 native HD display will automatically be better? Of course not, there are other things you have to look at. If a 1080 native TV has crap picture quality, you should pass on it regardless of its native resolution.
As for cars, I'm not a car expert, but from what I recall, you can get good cars with good horsepower with or without a hemi engine.
HDMI is the connector format, and HDCP is the encryption.
I know that windows vista will require HDCP capable displays if you want to display HD media in HD res (which means no CRT's that I'm aware of, and almost no PC LCD monitors I know of support it either).
As for TV's perhaps I was mixing up the terms. I know that standalones HD players will require one of them. I guess its probably HDCP. Well in that case, I dont know if this TV supports HDCP.
edit: Ok, I found one of the stories I had read a while back:
http://www.engadget.com/2005/07/12/tosh...layers-will-do-high-def-only-via-hdmi/
It says only through HDMI. But it also says thats because of HDCP. So I imagine you would need BOTH in order to play HD movies at HD res.
Found this page:
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSH...o&CategoryName=tv_hdtv_30%22to42%22TVs
Says it supports both HDCP and HDMI, so its fine then for future standalone HD players. Which is what I said earlier anyway
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