CBS showed completely exposed breasts on prime time TV back in 1995 and never received peep of protest

Mill

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Don't forget how people have flashed the cameras before at various live events. Wasn't there one recently on the Today Show?
 

conjur

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Duh.

That show aired at 10pm. Different FCC rules apply. And, there's a difference in a medical procedure being performed and a guy ripping the clothes on a woman.

And, I'd bet that show had a notice at the beginning warning viewers of adult material (much like NYPD Blue does)
 

Psorak

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JJ did it for publicity, and to be an attention whore.

Those are the reasons that it should be condemned.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: conjur
Duh.

That show aired at 10pm. Different FCC rules apply.

And, I'd bet that show had a notice at the beginning warning viewers of adult material (much like NYPD Blue does)

The Today Show airs at 10pm? :confused:
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
Duh.

That show aired at 10pm. Different FCC rules apply.

And, I'd bet that show had a notice at the beginning warning viewers of adult material (much like NYPD Blue does)

The Today Show airs at 10pm? :confused:

Uh....yeah....sure.

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dquan97

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Different context. One is directed towards adults and aired late night, while the Super Bowl is in the afternoon, in front of families who are expecting a game.
 

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Seeing as this was on Chicago's Hope, I don't doubt there was not any protest. Who watched that show anyways?
 

conjur

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And, as I just said in the other new thread:

Doesn't anyone remember that Schindler's List was shown unedited (can you say full-frontal male nudity)?

The differences, people, that apparently the lot of you don't understand, is that those are KNOWN in ADVANCE and WARNINGS are displayed BEFORE the shows come on the air and again when returning from commercial breaks.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: conjur
And, as I just said in the other new thread:

Doesn't anyone remember that Schindler's List was shown unedited (can you say full-frontal male nudity)?

The differences, people, that apparently the lot of you don't understand, is that those are KNOWN in ADVANCE and WARNINGS are displayed BEFORE the shows come on the air and again when returning from commercial breaks.

Warning haven't been displayed when audience and crowd members have flashed the cameras. Where are the fines for that?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
And, as I just said in the other new thread:

Doesn't anyone remember that Schindler's List was shown unedited (can you say full-frontal male nudity)?

The differences, people, that apparently the lot of you don't understand, is that those are KNOWN in ADVANCE and WARNINGS are displayed BEFORE the shows come on the air and again when returning from commercial breaks.

Warning haven't been displayed when audience and crowd members have flashed the cameras. Where are the fines for that?

I am unaware of any examples. Taped shows will just edit that out or do the black-bar covering the body part(s). Besides, those are unplanned, quite unlike the Sun. night fiasco.
 

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
And, as I just said in the other new thread:

Doesn't anyone remember that Schindler's List was shown unedited (can you say full-frontal male nudity)?

The differences, people, that apparently the lot of you don't understand, is that those are KNOWN in ADVANCE and WARNINGS are displayed BEFORE the shows come on the air and again when returning from commercial breaks.

Warning haven't been displayed when audience and crowd members have flashed the cameras. Where are the fines for that?

The whole issue here is that you disagree with us on whether or not it was planned. You don't think she meant it to happen, we do think it was intentional. When a perfomer intentionally performs an act like that it circumvents any previous ratings or guides about the show. End of case.

Can we simply agree to disagree and let these fscking threads just die???
It wasn't ended in the other 1000 post long thread, it isn't going to change any opinions in three other threads.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
And, as I just said in the other new thread:

Doesn't anyone remember that Schindler's List was shown unedited (can you say full-frontal male nudity)?

The differences, people, that apparently the lot of you don't understand, is that those are KNOWN in ADVANCE and WARNINGS are displayed BEFORE the shows come on the air and again when returning from commercial breaks.

Warning haven't been displayed when audience and crowd members have flashed the cameras. Where are the fines for that?

I am unaware of any examples. Taped shows will just edit that out or do the black-bar covering the body part(s). Besides, those are unplanned, quite unlike the Sun. night fiasco.

There is a video clip that's been around for a year or so that shows a girl who bared her tits on the Today Show or a similar knock off show, so that she could win free tickets from a radio show. If anything the collusion of the radio show in her act should have brought a fine but it did not. Plus, there is no "proof" yet that the Timblerlake/Jackson incident was anything more than an accident. You may have your personal opinion on what happened, but it is not fact. So, should that Network have been fined for the flash in the other case? I think not. Same with CBS here.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Mill


There is a video clip that's been around for a year or so that shows a girl who bared her tits on the Today Show or a similar knock off show, so that she could win free tickets from a radio show. If anything the collusion of the radio show in her act should have brought a fine but it did not. Plus, there is no "proof" yet that the Timblerlake/Jackson incident was anything more than an accident. You may have your personal opinion on what happened, but it is not fact. So, should that Network have been fined for the flash in the other case? I think not. Same with CBS here.

In that case, the radio station should be fined. Perhaps not enough people saw it to complain so it got brushed aside.

As for the Super Bowl show, damn, man, you're dense. Janet has ADMITTED it was NO accident.

But, you're set on ignoring the facts and the FCC regulations so there's no point in discussing it further with you.
 

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You have to look at the context. Showing a breast in a medical drama viewed mostly by adults, aired at 10pm at night, where the plotline concerned breast cancer and reconstructive surgery is totally different than showing a guy ripping a woman's clothes off in the middle of arguably the most watched television program of the year, in a totally unscripted and unexpected way. Even if children were watching the boob at 10pm, the context was not sexual in nature.

However, even considering all that, I don't see what the big deal is. I think it's pretty pathetic that people will get so enraged as to pick up the phone and call their representatives to bitch and complain about a boob on prime time tv, but not about things like people getting gassed in North Korea.
 

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I still think the worst part of the halftime show was "Nelly" constatnly grabbing his crotch (or as the Daily Show said, "itchy penis"), not Janet.
 

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They were warned Justin T. Said that he was going to undress her by the end of the Song.
 

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
And, as I just said in the other new thread:

Doesn't anyone remember that Schindler's List was shown unedited (can you say full-frontal male nudity)?

The differences, people, that apparently the lot of you don't understand, is that those are KNOWN in ADVANCE and WARNINGS are displayed BEFORE the shows come on the air and again when returning from commercial breaks.

Warning haven't been displayed when audience and crowd members have flashed the cameras. Where are the fines for that?

I am unaware of any examples. Taped shows will just edit that out or do the black-bar covering the body part(s). Besides, those are unplanned, quite unlike the Sun. night fiasco.

There is a video clip that's been around for a year or so that shows a girl who bared her tits on the Today Show or a similar knock off show, so that she could win free tickets from a radio show. If anything the collusion of the radio show in her act should have brought a fine but it did not. Plus, there is no "proof" yet that the Timblerlake/Jackson incident was anything more than an accident. You may have your personal opinion on what happened, but it is not fact. So, should that Network have been fined for the flash in the other case? I think not. Same with CBS here.

"I am really sorry if I offended anyone. That was truly not my intention," she said. "MTV, CBS, the NFL had no knowledge of this whatsoever, and unfortunately, the whole thing went wrong in the end."

ownage
 

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Originally posted by: nan0bug
You have to look at the context. Showing a breast in a medical drama viewed mostly by adults, aired at 10pm at night, where the plotline concerned breast cancer and reconstructive surgery is totally different than showing a guy ripping a woman's clothes off in the middle of arguably the most watched television program of the year, in a totally unscripted and unexpected way. Even if children were watching the boob at 10pm, the context was not sexual in nature.

However, even considering all that, I don't see what the big deal is. I think it's pretty pathetic that people will get so enraged as to pick up the phone and call their representatives to bitch and complain about a boob on prime time tv, but not about things like people getting gassed in North Korea.
Exactly. The rule is always that nudity is fine as long as it isn't sexual. Any network can show a documentary showing nude tribes in Africa. Any network can show a learning show about medicine or medical procedures and not face a fine (one channel even has an educational show that airs about once a year showing full nudity of multiple preteen and teenage girls). As long as it is educational and not sexual it is allowed. The super bowl stunt was entirely sexual (especially in context with the song lyrics) and had not one bit of education. Thus it was illegal - accident or not.

My own belief: it is no big deal. The breast was even partially covered. The human body should not be something people are offended by.
 

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If you can consider Janet Jackson's breast "indecent", I consider TV preachers "indecent" and would like to move to have them banned.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Mill


There is a video clip that's been around for a year or so that shows a girl who bared her tits on the Today Show or a similar knock off show, so that she could win free tickets from a radio show. If anything the collusion of the radio show in her act should have brought a fine but it did not. Plus, there is no "proof" yet that the Timblerlake/Jackson incident was anything more than an accident. You may have your personal opinion on what happened, but it is not fact. So, should that Network have been fined for the flash in the other case? I think not. Same with CBS here.

In that case, the radio station should be fined. Perhaps not enough people saw it to complain so it got brushed aside.

As for the Super Bowl show, damn, man, you're dense. Janet has ADMITTED it was NO accident.

But, you're set on ignoring the facts and the FCC regulations so there's no point in discussing it further with you.

No accident that the stunt was planned to reduce her to her bra. Not to show nudity. Read the whole statement.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: OulOat
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: conjur
And, as I just said in the other new thread:

Doesn't anyone remember that Schindler's List was shown unedited (can you say full-frontal male nudity)?

The differences, people, that apparently the lot of you don't understand, is that those are KNOWN in ADVANCE and WARNINGS are displayed BEFORE the shows come on the air and again when returning from commercial breaks.

Warning haven't been displayed when audience and crowd members have flashed the cameras. Where are the fines for that?

I am unaware of any examples. Taped shows will just edit that out or do the black-bar covering the body part(s). Besides, those are unplanned, quite unlike the Sun. night fiasco.

There is a video clip that's been around for a year or so that shows a girl who bared her tits on the Today Show or a similar knock off show, so that she could win free tickets from a radio show. If anything the collusion of the radio show in her act should have brought a fine but it did not. Plus, there is no "proof" yet that the Timblerlake/Jackson incident was anything more than an accident. You may have your personal opinion on what happened, but it is not fact. So, should that Network have been fined for the flash in the other case? I think not. Same with CBS here.

"I am really sorry if I offended anyone. That was truly not my intention," she said. "MTV, CBS, the NFL had no knowledge of this whatsoever, and unfortunately, the whole thing went wrong in the end."

ownage

Read my post above you.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Mill


No accident that the stunt was planned to reduce her to her bra. Not to show nudity. Read the whole statement.

Fine...one last reply.

Why should anyone believe that? She already lied and said it was an accident; that it wasn't planned. Sorry, the witness has been discredited.