CBS News Confirms... Global Warming is MAN MADE!

[ericlp]

And it's only going to get worse....


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A major report is coming out this week from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) meeting in Paris. The draft that?s been reported on the wires is unbelievably grim, and frightening: droughts have gotten longer, seas have warmed and expanded and carbon dioxide levels have risen sharply. And the forecast for the rest of this century? You better sit down. It?s worse. Don?t leave home without an umbrella, or lots of sunscreen: it?s anticipated that it?s going to get hotter, and lot rainier, with sea ice melting and ocean levels rising. There?s more and more evidence that much of this is not just a freak of nature. It?s man-made.

Damn, I guess it's for real now. I mean, now we are gonna hear noting but global warming and maybe even Bush might chime in? It's pretty bad we have let it go this far and let the bush administration keep everyone in the dark about the warnings from thousands of scientist.... Amazing... I wonder what else the GOP is keeping from us? Very...very sad. I think this alone should be grounds for impeachment...

 

[jlbenedict]

Along with your umbrella.. bring plenty of tin foil

 

[Schadenfroh]

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[JD50]

Originally posted by: Chicken Little

The sky is falling the sky is falling!!!

Fixed

 

[ericlp]

Wow, I guess no love for the starving polar bears and penguins eh? Didn't you see Happy Feet?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: ericlp
Wow, I guess no love for the starving polar bears and penguins eh? Didn't you see Happy Feet?

I'm still trying to get over all of the poor dinosaurs that died, did we cause that too?

 

[imported_Shivetya]

of course its man made...... MAN MADE UP


The real trick is, there is no money in it, research or fixing it, if it were not man made, so what result did you think they would come up with?

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: ericlp
Wow, I guess no love for the starving polar bears and penguins eh? Didn't you see Happy Feet?

I'm still trying to get over all of the poor dinosaurs that died, did we cause that too?

Nope but we've done a good job on the whales so far, tigers, elephants, etc.

If you still think climate change has nothing to do with us, or doesn't matter (or both) you really do have your head stuck in the sand.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: ericlp
Wow, I guess no love for the starving polar bears and penguins eh? Didn't you see Happy Feet?

I'm still trying to get over all of the poor dinosaurs that died, did we cause that too?

Nope but we've done a good job on the whales so far, tigers, elephants, etc.

If you still think climate change has nothing to do with us, or doesn't matter (or both) you really do have your head stuck in the sand.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: ericlp
.... Amazing... I wonder what else the GOP is keeping from us? Very...very sad. I think this alone should be grounds for impeachment...

This presumes a level of censorship I am unfamiliar with. I thought scientist were free to publish as they wish, and of course post on the internet?

I think the current issue (Waxman) has to do only with reports issued by the government.

Fern

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: ericlp
Wow, I guess no love for the starving polar bears and penguins eh? Didn't you see Happy Feet?

I'm still trying to get over all of the poor dinosaurs that died, did we cause that too?

Nope but we've done a good job on the whales so far, tigers, elephants, etc.

If you still think climate change has nothing to do with us, or doesn't matter (or both) you really do have your head stuck in the sand.

First of all, species go extinct, its how nature works, get over it.

Second, yea, we probably do have something to do with the climate change, as do all creatures on this planet, the debate is how much we have to do with it. If you think that the wolrd would have no climate change and be a great big garden of eden with no species going extinct and everything living in harmony together if humans weren't here then you really do have yourhead stuck in the sand.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Shivetya
of course its man made...... MAN MADE UP


The real trick is, there is no money in it, research or fixing it, if it were not man made, so what result did you think they would come up with?

Ding ding, global warming has become a big industry for govt researchers. Who the hell is going to come out with findings that will eliminate their job?

If anybody can explain to me why we have more ice on greenland now than they did 1000 years ago and tell me 1000 years ago man caused that warming trend. Then maybe Ill start to really believe in the new religion called Man Made Global Warming.

Otherwise this whole idea we can alter the climate so it doesnt warm sounds about as futile as pissing into the wind. The Earths climate has moved up and down in temperature for billions of years. Only the ego of man can conclude the latest seesaw effect is his own doing and he can stop it.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: ericlp
Wow, I guess no love for the starving polar bears and penguins eh? Didn't you see Happy Feet?

I'm still trying to get over all of the poor dinosaurs that died, did we cause that too?

You must mean the first theories of the Dinosaur extiction "Rodent like mammals destroying all the eggs"? Well, then you maybe the one responsible, ancestral guilt.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Shivetya
of course its man made...... MAN MADE UP


The real trick is, there is no money in it, research or fixing it, if it were not man made, so what result did you think they would come up with?

Ding ding, global warming has become a big industry for govt researchers. Who the hell is going to come out with findings that will eliminate their job?

If anybody can explain to me why we have more ice on greenland now than they did 1000 years ago and tell me 1000 years ago man caused that warming trend. Then maybe Ill start to really believe in the new religion called Man Made Global Warming.

Otherwise this whole idea we can alter the climate so it doesnt warm sounds about as futile as pissing into the wind. The Earths climate has moved up and down in temperature for billions of years. Only the ego of man can conclude the latest seesaw effect is his own doing and he can stop it.

Do some volume calculations, just simple 'order of magnitude' stuff, and you will see that the CO2 we produce is capable of affecting worldwide levels, and therefore of altering solar energy absorption/reflection ratios.

 

[MonkeyK]

Originally posted by: JD50
Second, yea, we probably do have something to do with the climate change, as do all creatures on this planet, the debate is how much we have to do with it.

Yeah, it might be a heck-of-a-lot or it might only be a lot

Personally I'm in the only a lot camp. Those heck-of-a-loters hang out with tree huggers and other enviro-extremists who clearly have an agenda to push.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Shivetya
of course its man made...... MAN MADE UP


The real trick is, there is no money in it, research or fixing it, if it were not man made, so what result did you think they would come up with?

Ding ding, global warming has become a big industry for govt researchers. Who the hell is going to come out with findings that will eliminate their job?

If anybody can explain to me why we have more ice on greenland now than they did 1000 years ago and tell me 1000 years ago man caused that warming trend. Then maybe Ill start to really believe in the new religion called Man Made Global Warming.

Otherwise this whole idea we can alter the climate so it doesnt warm sounds about as futile as pissing into the wind. The Earths climate has moved up and down in temperature for billions of years. Only the ego of man can conclude the latest seesaw effect is his own doing and he can stop it.

Do some volume calculations, just simple 'order of magnitude' stuff, and you will see that the CO2 we produce is capable of affecting worldwide levels, and therefore of altering solar energy absorption/reflection ratios.

Methane worries me more, why dont people attack this more?
My theory of course is methane is a byproduct of everybody, not just western nations. Cattle herds in a 3rd world country, we cant be limiting 3rd world progress. Only those ebil western countries with a lot of wealth.

My understanding of Co2 deposits in ice samples is the warming trend happens several decades or centuries after the rise in Co2. In other words the correlation is very small and possible non-existent all together.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: ericlp
Wow, I guess no love for the starving polar bears and penguins eh? Didn't you see Happy Feet?

I'm still trying to get over all of the poor dinosaurs that died, did we cause that too?

Nope but we've done a good job on the whales so far, tigers, elephants, etc.

If you still think climate change has nothing to do with us, or doesn't matter (or both) you really do have your head stuck in the sand.

First of all, species go extinct, its how nature works, get over it.

Second, yea, we probably do have something to do with the climate change, as do all creatures on this planet, the debate is how much we have to do with it. If you think that the wolrd would have no climate change and be a great big garden of eden with no species going extinct and everything living in harmony together if humans weren't here then you really do have yourhead stuck in the sand.

How typical:

'You must live in some pansy liberal dream world with rainbows and faeries and birthday cake for every meal'

Get a freakin clue - the animals I mentioned we drove near or to extinction by hunting; they have nothing to do with climate change, but if you think they became endangered or extinct for any reason other than man and modern technological killing you are fooling yoursef.

No other animal causes the kind of CO2 emissions we do, because no other animal creates CO2 by methods other than breathing.

Things go extinct and climates change, but the current changes are being largely caused by us, and are going to create major issues that could have been avoided if we had taken action 20 years ago when it was scientifically obvious what was going on.

As it is, there is still a chance to reduce the impact, but it's not going to happen, because you're still hoping to be dead before the bad stuff hits.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Shivetya
of course its man made...... MAN MADE UP


The real trick is, there is no money in it, research or fixing it, if it were not man made, so what result did you think they would come up with?

Ding ding, global warming has become a big industry for govt researchers. Who the hell is going to come out with findings that will eliminate their job?

If anybody can explain to me why we have more ice on greenland now than they did 1000 years ago and tell me 1000 years ago man caused that warming trend. Then maybe Ill start to really believe in the new religion called Man Made Global Warming.

Otherwise this whole idea we can alter the climate so it doesnt warm sounds about as futile as pissing into the wind. The Earths climate has moved up and down in temperature for billions of years. Only the ego of man can conclude the latest seesaw effect is his own doing and he can stop it.

Do you refer the "Little Ice Age" that killed the Vikings in the Greenland settlements? About a THOUSAND years ago? Or you Just mixed up about the shrinking glaciers in Iceland and Greenland?

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Shivetya
of course its man made...... MAN MADE UP


The real trick is, there is no money in it, research or fixing it, if it were not man made, so what result did you think they would come up with?

Ding ding, global warming has become a big industry for govt researchers. Who the hell is going to come out with findings that will eliminate their job?

If anybody can explain to me why we have more ice on greenland now than they did 1000 years ago and tell me 1000 years ago man caused that warming trend. Then maybe Ill start to really believe in the new religion called Man Made Global Warming.

Otherwise this whole idea we can alter the climate so it doesnt warm sounds about as futile as pissing into the wind. The Earths climate has moved up and down in temperature for billions of years. Only the ego of man can conclude the latest seesaw effect is his own doing and he can stop it.

Do some volume calculations, just simple 'order of magnitude' stuff, and you will see that the CO2 we produce is capable of affecting worldwide levels, and therefore of altering solar energy absorption/reflection ratios.

What type of magnatude? How much do we produce compared to nature? What levels *should* we be at? As a result, what levels should temp be at?

Essentially people say that nature produces, perhaps an index of 100 Co2. Then, they say that since it's currently at 110, then man must be creating 10% extra. Furthermore, since they see temps raising they think it's a 1:1 correlation.

However, this is ignoring other independant variables which cause not only Co2 production, but also temp fluctuations. This planet is so complex and the universe itself even more so, that simply saying X causes Y while completely ignoring A-W+Z, is simply stupid.

Do I think that we should be pumping Co2 like we are? Heck no, I hate SUVs, and other guzzlers. If anything because it is a short-sighted way of continuing ME power while trashing our air. However, that isn't to say that I believe in all of the hype. I take a balanced approach.

I find it funny that everybody is so skepticle of many pieces of research that counter "GW" but ignore any skepticism of pro-GW studies.

 

[dmcowen674]

Remember I said in my Global Warming thread that once Republicans lose power then the truth would come out.

Same with the jobs numbers.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

So sad all the people that so vehemently deny that we caused global warming. It's a fact, it's our man made destiny, if you don't believe it, fine, keep your head up your ass, but it's the truth and more information is being disclosed and discovered that confirms this. Check out the front page of USA Today if you get a chance.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Shivetya
of course its man made...... MAN MADE UP


The real trick is, there is no money in it, research or fixing it, if it were not man made, so what result did you think they would come up with?

Ding ding, global warming has become a big industry for govt researchers. Who the hell is going to come out with findings that will eliminate their job?

If anybody can explain to me why we have more ice on greenland now than they did 1000 years ago and tell me 1000 years ago man caused that warming trend. Then maybe Ill start to really believe in the new religion called Man Made Global Warming.

Otherwise this whole idea we can alter the climate so it doesnt warm sounds about as futile as pissing into the wind. The Earths climate has moved up and down in temperature for billions of years. Only the ego of man can conclude the latest seesaw effect is his own doing and he can stop it.

Do some volume calculations, just simple 'order of magnitude' stuff, and you will see that the CO2 we produce is capable of affecting worldwide levels, and therefore of altering solar energy absorption/reflection ratios.

Methane worries me more, why dont people attack this more?
My theory of course is methane is a byproduct of everybody, not just western nations. Cattle herds in a 3rd world country, we cant be limiting 3rd world progress. Only those ebil western countries with a lot of wealth.

My understanding of Co2 deposits in ice samples is the warming trend happens several decades or centuries after the rise in Co2. In other words the correlation is very small and possible non-existent all together.

We have been putting out substantial CO2 for 'several decades' or more precisely for at least a century - we haven't seen the results of our current CO2 levels yet.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: ericlp
Wow, I guess no love for the starving polar bears and penguins eh? Didn't you see Happy Feet?

I'm still trying to get over all of the poor dinosaurs that died, did we cause that too?

Nope but we've done a good job on the whales so far, tigers, elephants, etc.

If you still think climate change has nothing to do with us, or doesn't matter (or both) you really do have your head stuck in the sand.

First of all, species go extinct, its how nature works, get over it.

Second, yea, we probably do have something to do with the climate change, as do all creatures on this planet, the debate is how much we have to do with it. If you think that the wolrd would have no climate change and be a great big garden of eden with no species going extinct and everything living in harmony together if humans weren't here then you really do have yourhead stuck in the sand.

How typical:

'You must live in some pansy liberal dream world with rainbows and faeries and birthday cake for every meal'

Get a freakin clue - the animals I mentioned we drove near or to extinction by hunting; they have nothing to do with climate change, but if you think they became endangered or extinct for any reason other than man and modern technological killing you are fooling yoursef.

No other animal causes the kind of CO2 emissions we do, because no other animal creates CO2 by methods other than breathing.

Things go extinct and climates change, but the current changes are being largely caused by us, and are going to create major issues that could have been avoided if we had taken action 20 years ago when it was scientifically obvious what was going on.

As it is, there is still a chance to reduce the impact, but it's not going to happen, because you're still hoping to be dead before the bad stuff hits.

How typical? I was responding to your typical statement saying "If you still think climate change has nothing to do with us, or doesn't matter (or both) you really do have your head stuck in the sand."

Yes, I realize that we almost made them extinct by hunting them. Thats what happens, survival of the fittest, preditors eat prey, its called nature. Did animals not go extinct before humans came around? Do you get all up in arms when a lion kills a zebra?

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Shivetya
of course its man made...... MAN MADE UP


The real trick is, there is no money in it, research or fixing it, if it were not man made, so what result did you think they would come up with?

Ding ding, global warming has become a big industry for govt researchers. Who the hell is going to come out with findings that will eliminate their job?

If anybody can explain to me why we have more ice on greenland now than they did 1000 years ago and tell me 1000 years ago man caused that warming trend. Then maybe Ill start to really believe in the new religion called Man Made Global Warming.

Otherwise this whole idea we can alter the climate so it doesnt warm sounds about as futile as pissing into the wind. The Earths climate has moved up and down in temperature for billions of years. Only the ego of man can conclude the latest seesaw effect is his own doing and he can stop it.

Do some volume calculations, just simple 'order of magnitude' stuff, and you will see that the CO2 we produce is capable of affecting worldwide levels, and therefore of altering solar energy absorption/reflection ratios.

Methane worries me more, why dont people attack this more?
My theory of course is methane is a byproduct of everybody, not just western nations. Cattle herds in a 3rd world country, we cant be limiting 3rd world progress. Only those ebil western countries with a lot of wealth.

My understanding of Co2 deposits in ice samples is the warming trend happens several decades or centuries after the rise in Co2. In other words the correlation is very small and possible non-existent all together.

We have been putting out substantial CO2 for 'several decades' or more precisely for at least a century - we haven't seen the results of our current CO2 levels yet.

When can we see the 2nd coming of christ, um I mean this spike in temperatures, that will spell the end of the world?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
So sad all the people that so vehemently deny that we caused global warming. It's a fact, it's our man made destiny, if you don't believe it, fine, keep your head up your ass, but it's the truth and more information is being disclosed and discovered that confirms this. Check out the front page of USA Today if you get a chance.

Wasn't global cooling a "fact" a couple of decades ago? Wasn't it a "fact" that the world was flat a few centuries ago?