CBS:Mark Whalberg Victim Says He Should Not Be Pardoned

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Jaskalas

Lifer
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Look at the cute little Democrats! So tough on crime!

The 'Republicans' are in favor of the pardon only because they choose to self-identify with the celebrity. Otherwise, he'd be a 'thug' or something similar.

So why are you playing as a "tough on crime" Republican? Seems to be a number of pro-Dem posters dead set against rehabilitation from a guy who could be a poster child for it.
 

TreVader

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Vader your the one full of crap, and with all wrong facts.

You said he blinded the victim, no he didn't. All of his victims don't mater in thia case. He paid for their crimes, and his record is clear for their crimes. It is clear you are trying to give the impression that the victim of the ONLY relavent crime is against the pardon.

If a 10 year old shoplifts at a store, should the owner opinion mater for a totally unrelated crime years later? No it shouldn't, because the crimes are distinct and not related.

He didn't ask to be pardon for crime against this woman, he asked to be pardoned for a totally unrelated crime. One that she has zero involvement in.


You idiot, I already said I hadn't heard that the second guy retracted the story. Please try to keep up!

He shouldn't be pardoned unless he served the rest of his time. Or gives his money to his victims.

Stop siding with an entitled douchebag just because he's a democrat. It shows what a partisan hack you are.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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And the Democrats are suddenly outraged at a criminal and hate monger becoming an upstanding citizen.

Nope, not so much. Best outcome of the criminal justice system. To bad we don't put policies in place to help it happen more often.
 

Subyman

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So the person's argument is "once a racist, alway a racist?" I'm sure that is an acceptable argument for the court. lol
 

Subyman

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You idiot, I already said I hadn't heard that the second guy retracted the story. Please try to keep up!

He shouldn't be pardoned unless he served the rest of his time. Or gives his money to his victims.

Stop siding with an entitled douchebag just because he's a democrat. It shows what a partisan hack you are.

That's great. Purchase a pardon. Doesn't that go against your stance that because he's rich doesn't mean he gets a pardon?
 
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Do we really need two threads on this subject, especially considering that the OP already posted in the other (older) one today? As far as the contention that the victim says he shouldn't be pardoned, who gives a shit? The victim may hold a grudge against Marky Mark for the rest of his life; does that mean society can never forgive his youthful transgression? The victim's feelings on the matter shouldn't be the determining factor in whether or not we're willing to forgive a crime that was committed by a child decades ago.
 

Subyman

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And the Democrats are suddenly outraged at a criminal and hate monger becoming an upstanding citizen.

Everybody is outraged these days, it seems.

You can beat someone, but you better be sure you don't let a racial slur slip or you will have every dem in the nation against you.
 

TreVader

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That's great. Purchase a pardon. Doesn't that go against your stance that because he's rich doesn't mean he gets a pardon?


No, because by doing this he is helping the people he hurt. How do you not understand this?


He didn't serve his time (which was already a paltry 90 days). He didn't apologize in person to these people. He doesn't give a shit about the million other felons in his situation.

He's an asshole and I enjoy the idea that he has zero say in the American political process. That's as it should be.
 

cubby1223

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No, because by doing this he is helping the people he hurt. How do you not understand this?

He didn't serve his time (which was already a paltry 90 days). He didn't apologize in person to these people. He doesn't give a shit about the million other felons in his situation.

He's an asshole and I enjoy the idea that he has zero say in the American political process. That's as it should be.

So... it was a bad-touch when Wahlberg molestered you.


The options we have are:
(1) you are completely full of shit, enjoying arguing purely for argument's sake
(2) you are contending for the title of angriest man alive
(3) you are one of Wahlberg's victims :D

I'm not interested in playing 20-questions to figure out which option you are currently arguing from, so unless you definitively inform otherwise (and be consistent in your posts), I'm assuming Wahlberg personally molestered you.
 
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Dari

Lifer
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So he wants the pardon solely for business purposes, not out of some sort of redemption considering how his life turned out and some donation to those he hurt?
 

highland145

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lol@trivector
So he wants the pardon solely for business purposes, not out of some sort of redemption considering how his life turned out and some donation to those he hurt?
Pretty much. Qualify per some state requirements that all can meet, I say.
 

Vic

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And the Democrats are suddenly outraged at a criminal and hate monger becoming an upstanding citizen.

Everybody is outraged these days, it seems.
I think you're confused. No one is outraged at anyone going from criminal to upstanding citizen.

What I see is a valid concern that celebrity is being used for impartial treatment in the law, but that's nothing new. I guess you don't see anything wrong with some animals being more equal than others..
 

Vic

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So why are you playing as a "tough on crime" Republican? Seems to be a number of pro-Dem posters dead set against rehabilitation from a guy who could be a poster child for it.
I would have zero issues with Marky Mark receiving his pardon provided someone could show me similar cases of rehabilitated persons who are not celebrities receiving similar clemency for similar crimes.
 

brycejones

Lifer
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I would have zero issues with Marky Mark receiving his pardon provided someone could show me similar cases of rehabilitated persons who are not celebrities receiving similar clemency for similar crimes.

Better yet, lift restrictions automatically on those who have demonstrated they can stay out of trouble and no one will have to worry about preferential treatment.
 

Darwin333

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" two counts of assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, marijuana possession and criminal contempt for violating the prior civil rights injunction. He was given a three-month prison sentence, of which he served about 45 days."

He already got pardoned, fuck I know people with simple possession charges that spent more time in jail.
 

Darwin333

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I would have zero issues with Marky Mark receiving his pardon provided someone could show me similar cases of rehabilitated persons who are not celebrities receiving similar clemency for similar crimes.

Sooooo very much this.
 

TreVader

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I would have zero issues with Marky Mark receiving his pardon provided someone could show me similar cases of rehabilitated persons who are not celebrities receiving similar clemency for similar crimes.


Good post