CBS:Mark Whalberg Victim Says He Should Not Be Pardoned

[bshole]

You think you would be able to get the pardon if you had done the same thing? If you or I couldn't, why should he?

My brother got a felony coke bust taken off his record. He sold to an undercover agent when he was 18. The felony was taken off when he was 45. It took 25 years of clean living...... kind of like what Markie Mark has done.

 

[TreVader]

TheVader should the victim opinion count for anything when it comes to pardoning? Here the actual victim says he should be pardon.

No she didn't! He has many victims and this whole thread is about how his victim says he should NOT be pardoned.


If all of his victims want him pardoned then give it to him. Sadly, for him, that's not the case. One of his victims declined to be interviewed and the other said do not pardon.


Do you even read the thread title?

 

[dank69]

My brother got a felony coke bust taken off his record. He sold to an undercover agent when he was 18. The felony was taken off when he was 45. It took 25 years of clean living...... kind of like what Markie Mark has done.

That's nice and all, but those are not comparable scenarios. Like I said, if anyone could get the same pardon, then fine, let him have it. If not, why should he get special treatment?

 

[DCal430]

No she didn't! He has many victims and this whole thread is about how his victim says he should NOT be pardoned.


If all of his victims want him pardoned then give it to him. Sadly, for him, that's not the case. One of his victims declined to be interviewed and the other said do not pardon.

Do you even read the thread title?

The crime she was a victim of isn't the one he is asking to be pardon for. The crime he is asking to be pardon for has 1 victim. That victim isn't her. Her attack has nothing to do with the crime at hand. The ONLY relavent victim says he should be pardoned.

You really need to get your facts straight.

 

[bshole]

That's nice and all, but those are not comparable scenarios. Like I said, if anyone could get the same pardon, then fine, let him have it. If not, why should he get special treatment?

What special treatment? It appears he is using the standard process for doing these things. Am I missing something?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The crime she was a victim of isn't the one he is asking to be pardon for. The crime he is asking to be pardon for has 1 victim. That victim isn't her. Her attack has nothing to do with the crime at hand.

Say it isn't so, TreVader owned yet again.

 

[TreVader]

The crime she was a victim of isn't the one he is asking to be pardon for. The crime he is asking to be pardon for has 1 victim. That victim isn't her. Her attack has nothing to do with the crime at hand. The ONLY relavent victim says he should be pardoned.

You really need to get your facts straight.

So what? I said ALL his victims. My facts are straight you're the one bending them all over the place.

Read for once.

 

[TreVader]

Londo do you just wander these forums vomiting up this retarded "insult" in every thread?

You are one of the top 5 pathetic poster of ATPN. There are people like Dcal430 here who are usually wrong, make crap arguments, and always get owned. But you are below them, they can argue a point! Nothing you write had any value, yet you continue...


Why is that?


You and bober are on a roll for least useful yet most talkative idiot on ATPN. I still think bober is ahead of you though!

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Poor TreVader you're almost as good as McOwned when it comes to self ownage. However, don't let that stop you from doing in yet again in this thread or another one.

 

[TreVader]

Poor TreVader you're almost as good as McOwned when it comes to self ownage. However, don't let that stop you from doing in yet again in this thread or another one.

Are you still talking? I don't see any content in this post besides your own foaming idiocy, care to try again limp wrist?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

LMAO!!!!! Still trying to act like you haven't owned yourself many times in the past few days.

 

[TreVader]

He shouldn't be pardoned at all. He's done nothing for the people he hurt.

Londo keep up with your revisionist history, you've been personally owned several times in this thread alone and please try to make a point?

Oh wait, you don't have any and you know you can't hang in this argument.

Keep it up, I'm sure the world is SO impressed with your insults

 

[BoberFett]

Look at the cute little Democrats! So tough on crime!

 

[Jimzz]

What special treatment? It appears he is using the standard process for doing these things. Am I missing something?

He's using his "fame" to try and get a pardon under the executive guidelines for “particularly meritorious clemency petitions.”

This would speed the process up a lot. And Mass has not given out a pardon to anyone in many years. I think he was hoping the out going Gov would be able to handle it and sign off as a going out of office type thing. But looks like it was held up enough to go to the new elected Governor.

 

[brycejones]

Look at the cute little Democrats! So tough on crime!

A bit early in the day for drinking isn't it?

 

[Vic]

Look at the cute little Democrats! So tough on crime!

The 'Republicans' are in favor of the pardon only because they choose to self-identify with the celebrity. Otherwise, he'd be a 'thug' or something similar.

 

[cubby1223]

He's using his "fame" to try and get a pardon under the executive guidelines for “particularly meritorious clemency petitions.”

This would speed the process up a lot. And Mass has not given out a pardon to anyone in many years. I think he was hoping the out going Gov would be able to handle it and sign off as a going out of office type thing. But looks like it was held up enough to go to the new elected Governor.

So what if he is famous? He is allowed to try anything within the confines of the legal system to try and obtain a pardon, just like everyone else can too. It's up to the person in power to grant such a pardon or not.

What I see in this situation is a lot of misplaced anger directed at the wrong things. Problems don't get solved when you're angry at all the wrong targets.

I will say this, if someone such as Wahlberg (TreVador is so "angry" he can't even be bothered to inform himself on the correct spelling of his anger's target) who has gone 25 years without repeating the crime, and on top of that has been a successful contributor to society since, cannot receive a pardon, then no one else has a chance at a pardon. The question to me then is, do I think people, all people, should have an opportunity to be absolved of some restrictions on their lives after a long time of not being a repeat offender? Yes. Saying "no" to Wahlberg is simultaneously shutting the door on everyone else in similar situations, rich or poor, white or non-white, famous or obscure. While saying "yes" simultaneously opens the door a little wider for everyone else in similar situations.

 

[TreVader]

Next, we should pardon OJ. He's not a bad guy! He doesn't kill anymore!

Come on guys, FREE THE JUICE! anyone?

 

[cubby1223]

The 'Republicans' are in favor of the pardon only because they choose to self-identify with the celebrity. Otherwise, he'd be a 'thug' or something similar.

Take the reverse stance and you have the description of this situation. "Lefty Democrats" (or whatever you want to term to describe the anti-pardon anger, I don't care what you choose as a descriptive term) were angry first at someone "the right" would not term as "a thug" being treated as "less than a thug" by the system.

Then "Republicans" were like, 'What's going on here? Why are you angry? Who are you angry at?'

 

[cubby1223]

Next, we should pardon OJ. He's not a bad guy! He doesn't kill anymore!

Come on guys, FREE THE JUICE! anyone?

I have stated many times in the past, I was always very much against the civil suit verdict. Who exactly is your anger's target this time?

As for the armed robbery that landed him in jail, he does have to face the legal system over that incident. I thought the sentence was overly harsh, I think he was punished more for the question if he killed her or not.

But, seriously man, separate incident, start another thread for that subject.

 

[TreVader]

I have stated many times in the past, I was always very much against the civil suit verdict. Who exactly is your anger's target this time?

As for the armed robbery that landed him in jail, he does have to face the legal system over that incident. I thought the sentence was overly harsh, I think he was punished more for the question if he killed her or not.

But, seriously man, separate incident, start another thread for that subject.

Lol I'm just kidding around. Obviously nobody cares about OJ.

Still, Whalberg has done nothing worthy of a pardon, and it would be absurd for him to be the first person pardoned in x many years when there are guys in there doing life for growing plants.

Many, many people deserve a pardon before him. The fact that he doesn't even mention these people or care, he just assumed that he is SO important! People need him to be a yoked out jocular street tough in his stupid movies!


Think of what the world would miss out on if he had gone to prison for a year or two as he should have! I shudder at the idea.

 

[BoberFett]

The 'Republicans' are in favor of the pardon only because they choose to self-identify with the celebrity. Otherwise, he'd be a 'thug' or something similar.

And the Democrats are suddenly outraged at a criminal and hate monger becoming an upstanding citizen.

Everybody is outraged these days, it seems.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

He shouldn't be pardoned at all. He's done nothing for the people he hurt.

Londo keep up with your revisionist history, you've been personally owned several times in this thread alone and please try to make a point?

Oh wait, you don't have any and you know you can't hang in this argument.

Keep it up, I'm sure the world is SO impressed with your insults

Where have I been owned in this thread. You're the only one going for McOwned self ownage record.

 

[DCal430]

Vader your the one full of crap, and with all wrong facts.

You said he blinded the victim, no he didn't. All of his victims don't mater in thia case. He paid for their crimes, and his record is clear for their crimes. It is clear you are trying to give the impression that the victim of the ONLY relavent crime is against the pardon.

If a 10 year old shoplifts at a store, should the owner opinion mater for a totally unrelated crime years later? No it shouldn't, because the crimes are distinct and not related.

He didn't ask to be pardon for crime against this woman, he asked to be pardoned for a totally unrelated crime. One that she has zero involvement in.

 

[desy]

Yep pardon him
His victim has forgiven a decades old crime, that's why pardons exist