Caution to those bought smokes from yessmoke.com

Lucky

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I bought two cartons from them in November but they still haven't arrived. After the company stopped responding to me (their last response indicated that "customs" was to blame but that they were still on their way), I called my credit card company. The guy on the other end of the phone immediately knew the company that I wanted to dispute the transaction with and told me to goto their website to read why.

news report

The credit card guy said that disputes were apparently yesmokes preferred way of crediting customers as they were not challenging the chargebacks. What worries me is that this article article says that the sting was designed to have authorities collect on the taxes lost out-by visiting the smoker and demanding payment from them.

While I'm baffled by the huge manpower this must be drawing away from terrorism related duties, I'm a bit nervous of what the feds might have in mind.

Anyone else have their orders snatched up at JFK as well?
 

Lucky

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I could of ordered them for a friend, what do you care. This is for people who've gotten screwed by this whole scandal.
 

TravisT

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Originally posted by: Lucky
I could of ordered them for a friend, what do you care. This is for people who've gotten screwed by this whole scandal.

I guess you got screwed twice then? You got screwed when you started and got addicted, now getting screwed when you buy some illegal tobacco. :D
 

n0cmonkey

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The cigarette smuggling business is apparently gaining professionals from the narcotics smuggling industry. It's big business. Screw the taxes.
 

Lucky

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
The cigarette smuggling business is apparently gaining professionals from the narcotics smuggling industry. It's big business. Screw the taxes.

The thing is, this company has been operating for nearly five years. There is nothing illegal about the cigarette sales (in most places, NYC excepted) except that the feds want the taxes collected POS instead of relying on the smokers to declare and pay their own taxes (unlikely most of the time).

The gov't ignored this company for years, this isn't a crime ridden mob organization.
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
The cigarette smuggling business is apparently gaining professionals from the narcotics smuggling industry. It's big business. Screw the taxes.

The thing is, this company has been operating for nearly five years. There is nothing illegal about the cigarette sales (in most places, NYC excepted) except that the feds want the taxes collected POS instead of relying on the smokers to declare and pay their own taxes (unlikely most of the time).

The gov't ignored this company for years, this isn't a crime ridden mob organization.

With the amount of attention cigarette smuggling has gotten recently, this isn't surprising.

According to the media (so take it however you want ;)), there are criminal organizations banking on cigarette smuggling.
 

Lucky

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Oh, I'm sure there are. When you artificially inflate the value of a product to levels that are multiples of their real percieved consumer value there is always room for criminal activity to exploit the difference.

 

Lucky

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After some emails and PM's...it seems some people don't know that chargebacks do not cost anything. you should be able to call your CC company and they should credit you right away while the dispute is pending. Since yesmoke is apparently not contesting this should not be too hard of a dispute.

 

nakedfrog

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I bought from them a couple times three years or so back and never had any problems.
 

Colt45

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I've bought from them before, but not in the last 4 or 5 months.

never had a problem before.
 

Cattlegod

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150,000 cartons @ 15 bucks each in taxes is over 2 million in lost taxes to the government. that probably more than pays for the work that went into stopping it.
 

DrPizza

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www.slatebrookfarm.com
Indian reservation 12 miles West of me, and a smaller reservation 12 miles east of me...
They have them for under $10 a carton for some brands..

I don't smoke. I just stop there to buy a bag of chips or something (cough cough GASp) on my way home from school. I can either take the expressway, 18 minutes to home, or the scenic route, 23 minutes to home..
 

Grey

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The parallels between this , the prohibition act and weed are amazing (and not unexpected).