There was a hot deal posted not to long ago for these chips from tigerdirect. These chips are for mobile computers, meaning these are mobile processors. This will not work in a desktop PC. I called tigerdirect myself, they have no clue. The processor is a 2.0 V (plus) chip, which is in fact a mobile processor. I got an RMA and said that it was not clear at all on the web page what I was ordering. I hope everyone else will hear this message and be careful. Mods please dont lock this thread for fear of other anandtechies being had by this company. Thanks.
***CAUTION****For people who bought k6-III 450s from tigerdirect
- Thread starter jblondi
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I have four (don't ask. has to do with more dependents than sense) of these K6-3+ 450mhz, all running @ 600 @2.1v. They run cool(due to low voltage) so require no elaborate hs/fan; I just use the retail fan/hs from the K6-2 they replaced. Sometimes a simple BIOS flash will allow 2.1v. and the 6X(or 2X read as 6X)multiplier on many motherboards. I got two from Tigerdirect and two from PCLiquidators. Just don't fry them at 2.4v. That's why they were sold with little or no warranty; not because they are bad chips(they're great) but because there are too many of you arsonists out there. 
I may be interested in buying one of these chips for my laptop if someone can not get theirs to work, email me.
Nice to know that this desktop with a PCLiq. K6-III+ hasn't worked for 2 months @600Mhz. My other one either...
That was the whole point of the thing. The K6-X+'s are built on .18 micron transisters for low power consumtion, low heat output, and high overclockablity.
As long as you've got a MB with 2.0 and a BIOS that recognizes the CPU, then you can use it fine.
As long as you've got a MB with 2.0 and a BIOS that recognizes the CPU, then you can use it fine.
I thought this chip would make a good christmas gift but im not sure if it will run on his board. Does anybody know if I can get this chip to "not work" in an Asus P5A-B I looked on thier website but it doesnt say if it supports 2v.
ASUS P5A-B has been a troublesome board for the K6-3+ chip. Many will not work with this CPU. Seems to be related to the revision (older version seem to work, new ones do not) of the board itself. There is a long thread over at www.amdzone.com BBS on the problems in this particular motherboard.
I bought 2 K63 450 and both are running at 550 very stable.
I just don't want to risk at 600 but I feel that they should be fine at that speed.
I did not increase voltage at all.
I put it on two FIC board but need to flash the bios first. (That means you have to use a regular K62 cpu to flash the bios, then switch back to the new chip afterwards. But I have been using them for 3 months without any blue screen.
I just don't want to risk at 600 but I feel that they should be fine at that speed.
I did not increase voltage at all.
I put it on two FIC board but need to flash the bios first. (That means you have to use a regular K62 cpu to flash the bios, then switch back to the new chip afterwards. But I have been using them for 3 months without any blue screen.
I agree with everyone else...I bought 4 of these chips from PCliq. and they are running great on a number of different boards. The EPOX boards seem to be the best. I have all of them running at 550 and voltage at 2.1. I can't believe you didn't even try the chip.
I bought four also. All running great at 600Mhz default voltage. I am also using the ASUS P5A & P5A-B with no problem. Guest I got the right revision of the mlb.
jblondi, are you seriously a senior member?
ok first of all, if you had done a little research, you would know that you are flat wrong. The K63+ chips are mobile, but many if not almost all super 7 boards support using said chips. The problem is whether your bios can support all of the features...
secondly, you say that you spoke with Tiger and they issued you an RMA...which means you are going to be refunded...and what is the problem with that?
Are you a complete nuts? why are you asking for the mods to lock the thread when it is your own ignorance that has caused you such problems.
As the originator of the said post, I cannot be held responsible for lack of brains. If you had read some of the other threads concerning the K63+ chips, you would have discovered that you should have looked at your motherboards bios information before buying one of these chips...
I have a K63+ in an old AZZA (via chipset) running totally stable @ 600mhz on the stock voltage. For 49 dollars (and assuming you already have an old SS7 based system that needs upgrading) you CANNOT BEAT THIS DEAL...
I stand by my original post that this is a HOT DEAL and I ask for people to please excuse jblondies moronic comments....he/she was obvioulsly was too lazy to do a little research before buying this product, AND this is the exact reason people get ripped off online. As I always tell people: DO RESEARCH BEFORE MAKING PURCHASES ONLINE!!!
ok first of all, if you had done a little research, you would know that you are flat wrong. The K63+ chips are mobile, but many if not almost all super 7 boards support using said chips. The problem is whether your bios can support all of the features...
secondly, you say that you spoke with Tiger and they issued you an RMA...which means you are going to be refunded...and what is the problem with that?
Are you a complete nuts? why are you asking for the mods to lock the thread when it is your own ignorance that has caused you such problems.
As the originator of the said post, I cannot be held responsible for lack of brains. If you had read some of the other threads concerning the K63+ chips, you would have discovered that you should have looked at your motherboards bios information before buying one of these chips...
I have a K63+ in an old AZZA (via chipset) running totally stable @ 600mhz on the stock voltage. For 49 dollars (and assuming you already have an old SS7 based system that needs upgrading) you CANNOT BEAT THIS DEAL...
I stand by my original post that this is a HOT DEAL and I ask for people to please excuse jblondies moronic comments....he/she was obvioulsly was too lazy to do a little research before buying this product, AND this is the exact reason people get ripped off online. As I always tell people: DO RESEARCH BEFORE MAKING PURCHASES ONLINE!!!
To answer everyones question, yes, I did try this chip, and no, my motherboard wont support it. Im glad to those of you who have had success with this chip. I did do my research before buying this chip, in the description at tigerdirect it states that this is for a desktop pc. Even the guy at the 800 number said it WAS NOT mobile chip, which it definatly is. I have no problem with getting an RMA, but what they are advertising is not correct. Other members have had clear problems with this chip so I thought I would send out a word of caution. I never said this is still not a hot deal. So trifecta calm down, chill out, and learn to read. Read my thread topic and my thread body again. Other members let me know what you think, and someone message me if they have a k63 non plus version that they are selling. Thanks everyone.
sorry, its just that there are THOUSANDS of people using this chip in DESKTOPS all over the world...go to amdzone.com's forums and read ...
There are so many people using this chip as their desktop chip... I would say that there is more likely a problem with your motherboard...
There are so many people using this chip as their desktop chip... I would say that there is more likely a problem with your motherboard...
Yes, it is a problem with my motherboard. I never said the chip didnt do what it was designed for. I just wanted to make people aware that this is NOT the AMD Desktop PC version of the chip. I made the mistake, and tigerdirect was not clear at all, nor was their support. I even see that you had problems with the + chip Here. So flaming me for haveing problems with it, and posting it! Shame shame. Im just trying to help people out here to make an educated decision. Think about that before you flame the next person. Really read what they write. I beleive that I am a senior member because of solid, supportive posts. Take a look at my other posts. Youll never find a bump, flame, or the like. Wish I could say the same for you.
I think that it should also be pointed out that tigerdirect has one the worst reputations as an oline etailer. The buyer really needs to educated as to exactly what they are purchasing in the technical department since as you pointed out CS dosn't have a clue. They also had shipped me 2 K62-350 a while ago when I ordered the K6-3-350 chips on their site. They did do an RMA but that was not the point, I think they thought at least some people would not return the cheaper chips.
BTW I purchased 2 k6-3+450 chips from PC liq. and ran them on a variety of SS7 boards with great results .Some minor tweaking, these chip truly are superior to the older and hotter desktop K63's They are the fastest and most overclockable CPU for
an older S7 motherboard.
BTW I purchased 2 k6-3+450 chips from PC liq. and ran them on a variety of SS7 boards with great results .Some minor tweaking, these chip truly are superior to the older and hotter desktop K63's They are the fastest and most overclockable CPU for
an older S7 motherboard.
so sensitive!
oh, and btw...I wasnt having problems, its just that the memory bandwidth of these older ss7 chips is alot less than I thought it would be...people have done many modifications to bring the memory bandwidth up to very respectable levels (ie, 4-way interleave...)
Well, if it is a problem with your motherboard, your post should say so...
You write the following:
This will not work in a desktop PC
I am responding to this because this satement is false. This chip DOES work with desktops and you are simply wrong.
fear of other anandtechies being had by this company
Again, I must respond to this sort of comment, because it is just the sort of thing that starts rumors.
I have purchase many items from Tigerdirect and recieved flawless customer service.
Do you really expect the average CS rep to know the intracacies of the K63+ ? It is your fault that you did not know what you are buying. Did you expect them to write something like:
"Many people have had success with this chip, but some people have older S7 boards that wont work, let us invest 17 hours of labor to explain why..."
Sheesh!
These guys are just trying to make a buck. And please keep purchasing from them. I have been buying things from them for very reasonable prices and I would hope that they succeed so that we diehard dealfinders can continue to get hot deals from them!
YOU are the one making accusations that do not have fact or reasoning behind it...
tisk, tisk...
I hope that people still consider this to be a rediculous post and I would hope that you would modify the title to something like:
"oops, my bad...I didnt realize that my motherboard was not one of the many that were SPECIFICALLY designed to handle these chips in the desktop environment. I guess I lost out on this fantastic 49.99 dollar upgrade that could have made an old SS7 system into a contenda !!!"
or,
"Gosh, these guys sold me a chip that I know nothing about for a really good price, then they took it back, because I still had no idea what a K63+ chip is able to do...Oh and they are a really bad company for not telling me that these chips are secretly some of the hottest items on the market because they are no longer being manufactured and are the best and last upgrade for the many millions of people with SS7 compatibility...especially the many, MANY desktop motherboards..."
oh, and I love flame wars...
as long as:
No explatives
No taking the Lords name in vain
No personal attacks to my body parts, sexual preference (women only), or ethnic heritage...
keep it coming...
oh, and btw...I wasnt having problems, its just that the memory bandwidth of these older ss7 chips is alot less than I thought it would be...people have done many modifications to bring the memory bandwidth up to very respectable levels (ie, 4-way interleave...)
Well, if it is a problem with your motherboard, your post should say so...
You write the following:
This will not work in a desktop PC
I am responding to this because this satement is false. This chip DOES work with desktops and you are simply wrong.
fear of other anandtechies being had by this company
Again, I must respond to this sort of comment, because it is just the sort of thing that starts rumors.
I have purchase many items from Tigerdirect and recieved flawless customer service.
Do you really expect the average CS rep to know the intracacies of the K63+ ? It is your fault that you did not know what you are buying. Did you expect them to write something like:
"Many people have had success with this chip, but some people have older S7 boards that wont work, let us invest 17 hours of labor to explain why..."
Sheesh!
These guys are just trying to make a buck. And please keep purchasing from them. I have been buying things from them for very reasonable prices and I would hope that they succeed so that we diehard dealfinders can continue to get hot deals from them!
YOU are the one making accusations that do not have fact or reasoning behind it...
tisk, tisk...
I hope that people still consider this to be a rediculous post and I would hope that you would modify the title to something like:
"oops, my bad...I didnt realize that my motherboard was not one of the many that were SPECIFICALLY designed to handle these chips in the desktop environment. I guess I lost out on this fantastic 49.99 dollar upgrade that could have made an old SS7 system into a contenda !!!"
or,
"Gosh, these guys sold me a chip that I know nothing about for a really good price, then they took it back, because I still had no idea what a K63+ chip is able to do...Oh and they are a really bad company for not telling me that these chips are secretly some of the hottest items on the market because they are no longer being manufactured and are the best and last upgrade for the many millions of people with SS7 compatibility...especially the many, MANY desktop motherboards..."
oh, and I love flame wars...
as long as:
No explatives
No taking the Lords name in vain
No personal attacks to my body parts, sexual preference (women only), or ethnic heritage...
keep it coming...
Solution for P5A series motherboards
I got one from Tiger too, and I just got to installing it this weekend.. I have a P5A mother board, and it too said it would support 2.0V, but it didn't. It only recognizes the chip as AMD, and not a K6-III. So I went online searching for bios updats, and found nothing official.. found one site that had the link to an old ASUS beta page that had the 1.011 version of the bios, that I've been waiting for a year now... looks like they won't finish it. So the beta is all there is, but it works. The beta to the P5A series could be found here. Download at your own risk.
ASUS bios download
Download at your own risk. You may mess up your motherboard if you don't know what your doing, or download the wrong one.
After flashing my P5A with the 1.011 beta, it recognized the chip as a k6-iii 450, but still got voltage errors at 2.0v. So I up it to 2.1v, and it worked fine. So I overclocked it to 500Mhz, then 550Mhz, and then 600Mhz, they all worked fine at 2.1v.. but I read somewhere that at 600, its unstable, so i tried it at 2.2v, became stable, but gets very hot, at 47c. so I lowered it down to 2.1v at 550mhz, figured the overclocking would need the 2.1v anyways. the temp is still hot to me at 44c, so i downloaded ASUS's own software/hardware probe 2.12.02 software and under settings enabled software cooling. The temp stays around 41c. which is pretty good for a K6. The ASUS Probe utility can be downloaded here
Asus Probe 2.12.02
Good luck
I got one from Tiger too, and I just got to installing it this weekend.. I have a P5A mother board, and it too said it would support 2.0V, but it didn't. It only recognizes the chip as AMD, and not a K6-III. So I went online searching for bios updats, and found nothing official.. found one site that had the link to an old ASUS beta page that had the 1.011 version of the bios, that I've been waiting for a year now... looks like they won't finish it. So the beta is all there is, but it works. The beta to the P5A series could be found here. Download at your own risk.
ASUS bios download
Download at your own risk. You may mess up your motherboard if you don't know what your doing, or download the wrong one.
After flashing my P5A with the 1.011 beta, it recognized the chip as a k6-iii 450, but still got voltage errors at 2.0v. So I up it to 2.1v, and it worked fine. So I overclocked it to 500Mhz, then 550Mhz, and then 600Mhz, they all worked fine at 2.1v.. but I read somewhere that at 600, its unstable, so i tried it at 2.2v, became stable, but gets very hot, at 47c. so I lowered it down to 2.1v at 550mhz, figured the overclocking would need the 2.1v anyways. the temp is still hot to me at 44c, so i downloaded ASUS's own software/hardware probe 2.12.02 software and under settings enabled software cooling. The temp stays around 41c. which is pretty good for a K6. The ASUS Probe utility can be downloaded here
Asus Probe 2.12.02
Good luck
:Q TO ALL THOSE TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN,
DO NOT, REPEAT DO NOT EVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM THE TIGERDIRECT OUTFIT,THEY ARE BUNCH OF CROOKS SHIPPING OUTDATED MERCHANDISE AND FREQUENTLY NOT THE MERCHANDISE ORDERED. FRAUD SUITS ARE PENDING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AGAINST THHIS OUTFIT.
DO NOT, REPEAT DO NOT EVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM THE TIGERDIRECT OUTFIT,THEY ARE BUNCH OF CROOKS SHIPPING OUTDATED MERCHANDISE AND FREQUENTLY NOT THE MERCHANDISE ORDERED. FRAUD SUITS ARE PENDING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AGAINST THHIS OUTFIT.
TO ALL THOSE TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN,
DO NOT, REPEAT DO NOT EVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM THE TIGERDIRECT OUTFIT,THEY ARE BUNCH OF CROOKS SHIPPING OUTDATED MERCHANDISE AND FREQUENTLY NOT THE MERCHANDISE ORDERED. FRAUD SUITS ARE PENDING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AGAINST THIS OUTFIT.
DO NOT, REPEAT DO NOT EVER ORDER ANYTHING FROM THE TIGERDIRECT OUTFIT,THEY ARE BUNCH OF CROOKS SHIPPING OUTDATED MERCHANDISE AND FREQUENTLY NOT THE MERCHANDISE ORDERED. FRAUD SUITS ARE PENDING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AGAINST THIS OUTFIT.
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