Catch a killer in a war zone... get brought up on assault charges

[rudder]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576646,00.html

Saw this on Fark. All I can say is wow. Can we really expect the best and the brightest to endure S.E.A.L. training to have their careers on the line for capturing a killer in a war zone?

Ahmed Hashim Abed was supposedly behind the fallujah mutilation of blackwater employees among other things. Intel had been looking for him for some time. If I were in Iraq and I saw a wanted al-qaeda operative... you would almost have to look the other way. Just by the environement the takedown would be prone to breaking out in violence. Then what? you would be brought up on assault charges!

UPDATE 3/30: Seems the prosecution's case is falling apart.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...seals-weakens/

Blood appeared in the prisoners mouth and no one saw him actually getting struck.

 

[CPA]

Our military has become a political cesspool.

 

[Elias824]

pfft the military isnt supposed to use violence!

 

[Fear No Evil]

Some in our country will give greater rights to terrorists captured in foreign countries than our own soldiers.

 

[bfdd]

if this is true, that's fucking ridiculous.

 

[flavio]

It looks like the problem was with hitting someone after they were detained which I guess is against regulations. Not that much drama.

 

[Zebo]

If these allegations are true, which is doubtful if you read the AQ training manual where the instructional quid pro quo is to always claim torture, abuse and Qu'ran desecration, I find it exceptionally difficult to give a shit.

 

[flavio]

Pesky military regulations.

 

[Patranus]

Some in our country will give greater rights to terrorists captured in foreign countries than our own soldiers.

Fucking ridiculous.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Oh no, a criminal got a bloody lip.

 

[Kirby]

pfft the military isnt supposed to use violence!

There's no fighting in the War Room!

 

[Schadenfroh]

If these allegations are true, which is doubtful if you read the AQ training manual where the instructional quid pro quo is to always claim torture, abuse and Qu'ran desecration, I find it exceptionally difficult to give a shit.

My thoughts exactly

 

[LunarRay]

Matthew McCabe, a Special Operations Petty Officer Second Class (SO-2), is facing three charges: dereliction of performance of duty for willfully failing to safeguard a detainee, making a false official statement, and assault.
Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe, SO-2, is facing charges of dereliction of performance of duty and making a false official statement.
Petty Officer Julio Huertas, SO-1, faces those same charges and an additional charge of impediment of an investigation.

One is the alleged assaulter... the other two, it seems to me, allegedly allowed the assault to occur and then hindered the investigation in some manner.

IF the alleged assault is not found to be true the other charges may indeed be pushed.

The SEALS played wrong in this. They are, more or less, charged with lying about the event.
They simply should have said what was true and let the chips fall where they may!... The SEAL probably can show cause for the assault... but lying is hard to defend..

 

[Jaskalas]

Our military has become a political cesspool.

Our military should be disbanded. We are an insult to their legacy and do not deserve their services as we betray them with political games.

 

[Zebo]

...one might just decide to pull the trigger next time and ensure that none of these fuckers live long enough to file a complaint.

...just sayin'...with isolated elite units like Seals a hush hush on the down low no capture policy can easily come in place with bullshit like this, just kill!

 

[theflyingpig]

This is why the US will never win another war. We are simply incapable of doing so. No matter how well trained our military is and no matter what weapons they have, our civilian leadership is too weak to allow them to do their jobs. This pathetic weakness that has infected our society will end our dominance in the world. Every singe person who perpetuates this nonsense will be responsible for the downfall of this country. Everyone knows this.

 

[FaaR]

Oh no, a criminal got a bloody lip.

I take it "law and order" is not a concept you support, nor place a lot of stock in.

 

[LunarRay]

...one might just decide to pull the trigger next time and ensure that none of these fuckers live long enough to file a complaint.

...just sayin'...with isolated elite units like Seals a hush hush on the down low no capture policy can easily come in place with bullshit like this, just kill!

I imagine it is hard to 'cold blooded' kill someone especially if you're an elite warrior.

It wouldn't take much to have me drop the assault charge. But, the other charges that relate to the subsequent investigation are another kettle of fish... They blew it and didn't have to... they are petty officers and not officers so I can buy into a lower level of thinking. I'm not saying only officers think well, but as a consideration of motive in all of this... I'd probably drop the charges if I was in charge there and give them a warning... Assuming what is listed is the total of the event..

BTW, Hi Zebo!

 

[bamacre]

Our military has become a political cesspool.

What do you expect when we fight wars for political reasons?

 

[Sinsear]

What won't we do to appease the followers of Islam?

 

[flavio]

I take it "law and order" is not a concept you support, nor place a lot of stock in.

Yeah, I'm not sure what all the bitching is about. People in the military are expected to follow regulations. It's kind of a core concept of being in the military.

If you hit someone who is already a detainee it seems like that is against the regulations. Understandable sometimes but discipline is part of the job. Right?

Do you really want to send a message that soldiers don't have to follow the rules?

 

[kylebisme]

What won't we do to appease the followers of Islam?

The problem isn't Islam, the problem is that so many won't stop being ignorant bigots.

 

[FaaR]

What won't we do to appease the followers of Islam?

We could begin with following our own rules, agreed?

Also, being less of a bunch of bigoted shitheads would also be a good start I'd say.

 

[PokerGuy]

How very sad. It's come down to Navy Seals getting charged with assault when they go out and catch a nasty bad guy. This country really is going down the tubes......

 

[GroundedSailor]

Yeah, I'm not sure what all the bitching is about. People in the military are expected to follow regulations. It's kind of a core concept of being in the military.

If you hit someone who is already a detainee it seems like that is against the regulations. Understandable sometimes but discipline is part of the job. Right?

Do you really want to send a message that soldiers don't have to follow the rules?

Right.

Actually at this point we don't really know what happened. The details are not provided in the news report.

Also, the OP has a false title. They are NOT being charged for catching a killer. They are being charged for their treatment of a prisoner after he was captured and while in custody. Also for lying.