I just downloaded the 5.12's for my X1800XT. Seems the the CCC locks up on the main logo for X64 systems. Anyone else get this? Is there a workaround / patch?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Catalyst 5.12/5.13 & Windows XP Pro X64
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ViRGE
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Random thought: what version of the .net framework do you have installed on your machine? x64 is a fickle beast in that there was never an official 1.x release of the framework. Try downloading a copy of 2.0 final for x64 and get back to us.
nitromullet
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That's about the long and short of it. I bought XP x64 for almost $150, and I used it for about 8 hours before re-installing the 32-bit version.
sandorski
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You didn't install .NET. That said, I tried .NET(both 1.1 and 2.0) and it just funked up my system(in sig) with a weird lag on the desktop. Others seem to not be having the issue, so I'm thinking my chipset might be the culprit. I uninstalled .NET and the CCC, then reinstalled 5.12 with just the Drivers(Advanced setup) and it works much better. Try installing .NET and see if it works for you.
Yea, I get to that Black logo that says "ATI Catalyst Control Center" and from there on it doesn't load.
with 5.12 you need to have .net 1.1 installed as well as 2.0 windows 64 doesn't have 1.1 so there is your problem. Alot of people are having these issues. There is a version of the 5.12 regular Control panel floating around. I would reocmmend just using ATI trat tool anyways...
nitromullet
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There are ways of getting around not using the CCC and .net 1.1, but none of them are really acceptable (IMO) with an X1800XT.
-ATI tray tools works with R520, but you have to disable overclocking. This sucks because I can reliably run my XT at 690/800 with the CCC.
-The regular CP doesn't support the Adaptive AA, which is one of the cooler features of the X1k series.
The best solution that I have come up with so far is to run ATI Tray Tools for IQ adjustments and ATI Tool for OCing. However, this is actually more annoying than the CCC + .net to begin with, and just sticking with the CCC is what I have choosen to do with XP 32-bit. It looks like this may be to the only option for XP x64 though, since it doesn't look like the CCC will run on x64.
I really like my Radeon (and I don't want to start a war), but this is the type of stuff people are talking about when they say that ATI drivers suck. ATI releases a driver package that supposedly works on XP x64, but part of it requires .net 1.1 which doesn't exist for XPx64... Ummmm, ok... WTF? I understand that the actual driver is not the problem, but the CCC is a pretty integral part of the driver for X1k cards, so it really doesn't make a difference in the end...
-ATI tray tools works with R520, but you have to disable overclocking. This sucks because I can reliably run my XT at 690/800 with the CCC.
-The regular CP doesn't support the Adaptive AA, which is one of the cooler features of the X1k series.
The best solution that I have come up with so far is to run ATI Tray Tools for IQ adjustments and ATI Tool for OCing. However, this is actually more annoying than the CCC + .net to begin with, and just sticking with the CCC is what I have choosen to do with XP 32-bit. It looks like this may be to the only option for XP x64 though, since it doesn't look like the CCC will run on x64.
I really like my Radeon (and I don't want to start a war), but this is the type of stuff people are talking about when they say that ATI drivers suck. ATI releases a driver package that supposedly works on XP x64, but part of it requires .net 1.1 which doesn't exist for XPx64... Ummmm, ok... WTF? I understand that the actual driver is not the problem, but the CCC is a pretty integral part of the driver for X1k cards, so it really doesn't make a difference in the end...
I guess 5.13 (Christmas hopefully?) will patch the CCC for X64.
BTW: Nitro what was your 3DMark '05 score?
BTW: Nitro what was your 3DMark '05 score?
nitromullet
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Sorry, I didn't see your response Red...
This is the score from my most recent run:
X1800XT @ 689/797:
3DMark05 9328
...I did a search for the thread because I was curious if you ever resolved this issue with XP x64, did you ever have any luck? How about with the 5.13's?
This is the score from my most recent run:
X1800XT @ 689/797:
3DMark05 9328
...I did a search for the thread because I was curious if you ever resolved this issue with XP x64, did you ever have any luck? How about with the 5.13's?
Nope, 5.13's are out. Great drivers but the CCC is still frozen during the logo & bootup. I sent a ticket to Customer Care. Apparently he will notify the "Catalyst Engineering Team"...
nitromullet
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Have you tried uninstalling .net 2.0 and installing .net 1.1 from the link in the driver download page? My guess is that the CCC under .net 1.1 will run in 32-bit compatibility mode, but it's only needed for the CCC anyway, not the actual driver. I'm asking this basically because I'm curious to know if the 5.13's work if you follow ATI's explicit instructions. I might give x64 another try, but I won't touch it with a 10' pole if this issue isn't resolvable.
Almost everything works fine for me in x64. I had to wait about two months to get a X-Fi though, because they didnt have x64 drivers at first. Everything else I own, has x64 drivers.
The two programs that dont work in x64 that bum me out are, WinDVD Creator, and AVG free anti-virus. There is a x64 version of AVG, but its not free like the x32 version is. Other programs have recently put out a x64 version that didnt have one a few months ago. Most notably for me is, daemon tools.
Saying nothing works with x64 is just nonesense. There are far more things that work as well as in x32, than not.
The two programs that dont work in x64 that bum me out are, WinDVD Creator, and AVG free anti-virus. There is a x64 version of AVG, but its not free like the x32 version is. Other programs have recently put out a x64 version that didnt have one a few months ago. Most notably for me is, daemon tools.
Saying nothing works with x64 is just nonesense. There are far more things that work as well as in x32, than not.
Ahh...the wonders of .NET. Seems like a driver configuration tool could be coded in something more primitive, no? I mean come on, even Microsoft Word 2003 doesn't require .NET.
You sure you can't install .NET 1.1 on x64? There is a damn stable 32-bit compatiblity layer (Windows on Windows), so stable such that even complex applications like Battlefield 2 can run on it fine. Seems like .NET 1.1 should install.
Look here. .NET 1.1 update that lists x64 support.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta...-40b2-bbdb-a83353618b38&displaylang=en
http://www.extended64.com/blogs/rhoffman/archive/2005/05/20/525.aspx
You sure you can't install .NET 1.1 on x64? There is a damn stable 32-bit compatiblity layer (Windows on Windows), so stable such that even complex applications like Battlefield 2 can run on it fine. Seems like .NET 1.1 should install.
Look here. .NET 1.1 update that lists x64 support.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta...-40b2-bbdb-a83353618b38&displaylang=en
http://www.extended64.com/blogs/rhoffman/archive/2005/05/20/525.aspx
I was about to try .net on x64, because the NV profile editor nHancer requires it. Perhaps I wont now..
nitromullet
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I installed .net 1.1 and then 1.1 SP1.
Reinstalled Catalyst Control Center and....
IT WORKS NOW!!!!
Reinstalled Catalyst Control Center and....
IT WORKS NOW!!!!
nitromullet
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Awesome, thanks for testing that out. I was kinda thinking about tinkering with XP x64 again, and I think this has sealed the deal.
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