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SniperDaws

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Originally posted by: VERTIGGO
Originally posted by: Sylvanas
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I'm still growing more furious.

Twin 3870X2's with CrossfireX on and in Crysis at 1280x720 I can't go above medium. High shaders (which makes or breaks the Crysis lighting "glory") brings it to an average 40 maybe with stutters and slowdowns to 20fps. And I thought I was getting four times the muscle upgrading from a 2900XT!

I will say that besides some gliches and 5fps areas, Bioshock was a dream with the new GPUs.

Did you uninstall the previous drivers properly? I have only 3850 512 Crossfire and I run 1920x1200 DX10 w/Medium around 33fps avg........So I'd imagine you'd get a bit more at 1280x720 (note I hope your not just running the built in GPU 'bench' thats the worst indication of performance there is for this game).

yeah just did a thorough reinstall of cat and crysis, and no difference. And yeah, 1920 is almost smooth at medium but move shaders to high, and it grinds into a slideshow. I wonder if taking out one of the cards would improve it. so far COH is the only thing I know benefits from 4 GPUs.

What you get 200fps instead of 100fps that a single 3870 will throw out. You bought into a gimmick big time mate, your cards will never be right.

 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: Pelu
Originally posted by: Raduque
Does this driver fix the "TDR" error with Vista?

whats TDR???

Some people like to make up fake bugs and issues to cover up their own inability to trouble shoot. :p

Seriously though, what TDR error?
 

apoppin

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Vista:

"Display Driver nvlddmkm stopped responding"

or

"Display driver atikmdag stopped responding"




This is called a Timeout Detection and Recovery error message.

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bka4u2c

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Vista: "Display Driver nvlddmkm stopped responding, has ....

That relates to nVidia if I remember correctly, I've seen that before when I was using nVidia cards. If would always auto recover itself though.

Thanks for the info on the TDR error.

 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Pelu
Originally posted by: Raduque
Does this driver fix the "TDR" error with Vista?

whats TDR???

Some people like to make up fake bugs and issues to cover up their own inability to trouble shoot. :p

Seriously though, what TDR error?

lol, research.

nVidia and ATI cards both have been having problems in Vista for the last years worth of drivers or so, the GPU "stops" and is recovered by Vista. Nobody can seem to fix it, or even figure out what's causing it. I get them a lot less with my ATI card then I did with my nVidia card, though.

Edit: It's called a "TDR" or "Timeout Detection Recovery".
 

bka4u2c

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Originally posted by: Raduque
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Pelu
Originally posted by: Raduque
Does this driver fix the "TDR" error with Vista?

whats TDR???

Some people like to make up fake bugs and issues to cover up their own inability to trouble shoot. :p

Seriously though, what TDR error?

lol, research.

nVidia and ATI cards both have been having problems in Vista for the last years worth of drivers or so, the GPU "stops" and is recovered by Vista. Nobody can seem to fix it, or even figure out what's causing it. I get them a lot less with my ATI card then I did with my nVidia card, though.

Edit: It's called a "TDR" or "Timeout Detection Recovery".

Yup, like I stated I certainly remember seeing it probably a minimum of 5 five times since using Vista/nVidia combo. And I've been using Vista since RTM. If I remember correctly this would happen when exiting a game most of the time with dreamscene running. I would then have to re-start dreamscene.

I've been running this ATI setup for 2 weeks now and no error like that yet. But I'm sure I can break it if I continue to use it. :thumbsup:

 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: bka4u2c
Originally posted by: apoppin
Vista: "Display Driver nvlddmkm stopped responding, has ....

That relates to nVidia if I remember correctly, I've seen that before when I was using nVidia cards. If would always auto recover itself though.

Thanks for the info on the TDR error.

you are welcome .. i edited it to include

"Display driver atikmdag stopped responding"

which is more relevant
:eek:

yes, the *recover* .. but it is damn annoying
 

Pelu

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too much people curse Vista for its troublesome ability... anyone here thinks is going to be fixed.... or we have to wait for he next OS
 

bka4u2c

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Originally posted by: Pelu
too much people curse Vista for its troublesome ability... anyone here thinks is going to be fixed.... or we have to wait for he next OS

I don't think it's been determined if it's a OS or driver issue or a combination of both.
 

Pelu

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I was wondering because... Vista have been on the streets for quiet some time.. and there is some rumors about the next window in 2009 or 2010... thats uber weird... but give me a sense of.. no fix..
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: bka4u2c
Originally posted by: Pelu
too much people curse Vista for its troublesome ability... anyone here thinks is going to be fixed.... or we have to wait for he next OS

I don't think it's been determined if it's a OS or driver issue or a combination of both.

we see/saw the same things with all versions of XP/Win2K .. Win98SE/ME .. etc. :p

it is a combinations of issues .. and TDR is a heckofalot better then a very-quickly rendered BSoD imo

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bka4u2c

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: bka4u2c
Originally posted by: Pelu
too much people curse Vista for its troublesome ability... anyone here thinks is going to be fixed.... or we have to wait for he next OS

I don't think it's been determined if it's a OS or driver issue or a combination of both.

we see/say the same things with XP/Win2K .. Win98SE/ME .. :p

it is a combinations of issues .. and TDR is a heckofalot better then a very-quickly rendered BSoD

rose.gif

Agreed, as I stated earlier when I got it with my nVidia setup it would automatically do a driver recover and the system would go back to normal without even a reboot. Annoying to some, didn't bother me much and as you said much better than a BSOD and having to do a reboot.
 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: apoppin

it is a combinations of issues .. and TDR is a heckofalot better then a very-quickly rendered BSoD imo

This is truth, though. I also have to mention that since I disabled "Adaptive Display" and "PCI Linkstate Somethingorother" in the advanced power management control panel, I've had a lot less of these recovery errors.
 

legoman666

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I used to get that TDR error a lot on my 2x HD3870's. It was completely random. Sometimes it occurred when I was playing a game, sometimes it happened when I was simply browsing the internet. However, it seems to happen a lot less (crosses fingers) after a bios update.
 

bka4u2c

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Originally posted by: legoman666
I used to get that TDR error a lot on my 2x HD3870's. It was completely random. Sometimes it occurred when I was playing a game, sometimes it happened when I was simply browsing the internet. However, it seems to happen a lot less (crosses fingers) after a bios update.

What motherboard/chipset are you using? I'm assuming you meant motherboard BIOS. Or was that video card BIOS? If so which brand of cards?
 

Grinja

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This is the first time I've hear of TDR ... been running Vista 64 for the last 3 months and have not had a single TDR.
I'm running a x1950pro, is this a common for DX 10 cards?
 

legoman666

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Originally posted by: bka4u2c
Originally posted by: legoman666
I used to get that TDR error a lot on my 2x HD3870's. It was completely random. Sometimes it occurred when I was playing a game, sometimes it happened when I was simply browsing the internet. However, it seems to happen a lot less (crosses fingers) after a bios update.

What motherboard/chipset are you using? I'm assuming you meant motherboard BIOS. Or was that video card BIOS? If so which brand of cards?

Gigabyte GA-X38-DS4. I meant the motherboard bios, sorry.
 

Raduque

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Originally posted by: Grinja
This is the first time I've hear of TDR ... been running Vista 64 for the last 3 months and have not had a single TDR.
I'm running a x1950pro, is this a common for DX 10 cards?

It's pretty common for all kinds of cards.

See here ATI and here nVidia
 

Schadenfroh

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I do not know if it is a coincidence or not, but I seem to be getting far higher temperatures since updating. I get a popup after playing games for 45 minutes in Windows XP Pro about having to throttle back the clock speed, temp is hitting 96C. (x1950 Pro AGP)

Fans are all spinning correctly...
 

Pelu

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sup all... I just notice that for the 8.3 was a hotfix.. but i didnt see it in the ATI site... someone else sent me a link for the hotfix.... the question is... where to get those hotfixes... and is there a hotfix already for 8.4???? I am always up for software updates lol...

Is kind of an addiction lol... searching each days for a few mins for updates... lol
 

*kjm

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Originally posted by: Grinja
This is the first time I've hear of TDR ... been running Vista 64 for the last 3 months and have not had a single TDR.
I'm running a x1950pro, is this a common for DX 10 cards?


This is the first I have heard of it also. I'm using a 3870X2 and have not had any problems in Vista 64... the only game I have been running though has been LOTR online.