Carson: Islam not consistent with Constitution; no Muslim should ever be President

shira

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Carson on Meet the Press. (Go to 7:50.)

Chuck Todd: Let me ask you the question this way: should the President's faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

Carson: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it's inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and [is] consistent with the Constitution, I have no problem.

Todd: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the Constitution?

Carson: Uh, no, I don't; I do not. I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

I was with Carson all the way through "I have no problem." But then he essentially tells us that the values of all Muslims are inconsistent with the Constitution, and that no Muslim should be President.

What a moron.
 

theeedude

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Is Christianity consistent with the Constitution?

Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And then carry him out, and stone him, that he may die.

If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers ... thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Doesn't look like it to me.
 

sactoking

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I thought republicans were fine with electeds having religious beliefs that conflict with their duties of office.
 
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I thought republicans were fine with electeds having religious beliefs that conflict with their duties of office.

Republicans are fine having elected officials have Christian beliefs that conflict with their duties of office. The Jews are OK too as long as none of those beliefs relate to kosher food, because nothing should ever come between a good Protestant and his bacon. But Muslims? They just want to implement Sharia Law! That's unAmerican!
 

trenchfoot

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If there ever were a President of the Muslim faith elected, it certainly wouldn't be a Republican one based on the many comments similar to Carson's coming out of their propaganda outlets.

And especially so now that our present POTUS has been since his candidacy negatively and falsely "accused" of being a Muslim by the Repub spin machine.
 

Spungo

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Is Christianity consistent with the Constitution?
It's not even consistent with American culture. Wedding rings are banned. Tattoos are banned. Divorce is banned. Women are third class citizens. There's a reason we laugh at religious people.

Timothy 2:9,
I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,

Timothy 2:10,
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
 

trenchfoot

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It's not even consistent with American culture. Wedding rings are banned. Tattoos are banned. Divorce is banned. Women are third class citizens. There's a reason we laugh at religious people.

Timothy 2:9,
I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,

Timothy 2:10,
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

Yeh, I thought it rather interesting how the Christian bible's interpretive relevancy has miraculously evolved with the times it has found itself in.

Maybe we're due for another "new" new testament to appeal to the changes in morality the doctrine has had to deal with since its creation. I say this partly based on how the Catholic Church hierarchy has had to deal with the changing times to remain relevant to the people it rules over.
 

Jaskalas

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The rights of the people come before an elected official's religious inclinations.
Should a person like Kim Davis be President? No.
 

child of wonder

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I do not believe Islam is consistent with the Constitution. Only my own personal Iron Age mythology that I was raised in is consistent with the Constitution because Jesus.
 

WHAMPOM

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Yeh, I thought it rather interesting how the Christian bible's interpretive relevancy has miraculously evolved with the times it has found itself in.

Maybe we're due for another "new" new testament to appeal to the changes in morality the doctrine has had to deal with since its creation. I say this partly based on how the Catholic Church hierarchy has had to deal with the changing times to remain relevant to the people it rules over.

As the English Church debates on how thick a stick a man may use to legally beat his wife with? Thumb size I think?
 

Moonbeam

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Islam is consistent with the Constitution. The Constitution is Islam, it came from Islam via Western contact with various Sufi orders and schools that teach and transmit knowledge privately. The whole idea of inalienable rights refer to the fact that God is not to be found out there, but within. The Masonic order is a derivative of such activity. Count the number of founding fathers who are Masons. Look at how Washington DC is laid out based on the enneagram.
 

Hugo Drax

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Islam is not compatible with Democracy, so is Christianity. The problem right now, Islam is what Christianity was like during the dark ages.

Maybe in 1000 years the Islamic religion will be a bit more polished.
 

werepossum

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Islam is not compatible with Democracy, so is Christianity. The problem right now, Islam is what Christianity was like during the dark ages.

Maybe in 1000 years the Islamic religion will be a bit more polished.
This, although that does not particularly mean that an individual Muslim might not be suited to be President. Not everyone embraces the crazy.

I've not been able to understand what people see in this guy, and this news about him doesn't really change that.

Is it just me or does Carson look and sound a little, idk, stoned?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T73LS6e1Rc

Bernie citing facts and numbers to support his views, feh!
Just as well, considering how crowded is your list of admirable Republicans. ;)
 

ivwshane

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You know what's not consistent with the constitution?

Requiring any federal employee including the president to be of any religion.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.


Fuck these ignorant fuckers and their anti constitution bullshit!


And you know what? Fuck the people that support these pieces of shit!
 

werepossum

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You know what's not consistent with the constitution?

Requiring any federal employee including the president to be of any religion.

Fuck these ignorant fuckers and their anti constitution bullshit!

And you know what? Fuck the people that support these pieces of shit!
Having an opinion /= requiring anything.
 

HTFOff

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Reporters will be asking Dem candidates if islam is consistent with the constitution real soon.

So soon.
 

sandorski

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You know what's not consistent with the constitution?

Requiring any federal employee including the president to be of any religion.




Fuck these ignorant fuckers and their anti constitution bullshit!


And you know what? Fuck the people that support these pieces of shit!

This, "no religious test" is pretty clear. I'll just point out that Christianity is also not consistent with the US Constitution. Yet Christians become President all the time.
 

Vic

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Reporters will be asking Dem candidates if islam is consistent with the constitution real soon.

So soon.
Go ahead and ask one yourself. I'm sure that the canned liberal response would be that no religion is inconsistent with the Constitution because the Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.
It wasn't a difficult question for Carson to answer, except for some of the Republican candidates' need to pander to the party base in order to stay relevant.