Caroline Kennedy for NY Senator -- anyone else offended?

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Am I the only person who finds the prospect of Caroline Kennedy being nominated to fill Clinton's Senate seat offense? Other than having been born into a wealthy family, what has she done to deserve being made a U.S. Senator? It reeks of our having a monarchy or a class of royalty in this country.

Why not choose a hard working Congressman or member of the state legislature who was born into a family of modest means instead?
 

Drakkon

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Well the way i see it its just as offensive as the son of a President running for president (yes he did something but just as Monarch-like) or the wife of a President running for president (long live the queen)
 

Double Trouble

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Am I the only person who finds the prospect of Caroline Kennedy being nominated to fill Clinton's Senate seat offense? Other than having been born into a wealthy family, what has she done to deserve being made a U.S. Senator? It reeks of our having a monarchy or a class of royalty in this country.

Why not choose a hard working Congressman or member of the state legislature who was born into a family of modest means instead?

I agree with you 100%. I don't know anything about her or her politics, but to have someone become a senator simply because of what family they belong to is just wrong.
 

umbrella39

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Offended? Not really. Surprised... yes. After reading here Wikipedia page, I am actually surprised it has taken her this long to become interested in becoming a politician with the pedigree she has. At least she is a New Yorker.
 

Skitzer

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I'm amazed she is even being considered! She has no experience whatsoever.
This is as bad if not worse than the Palin fiasco!
 

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Originally posted by: Drakkon
Well the way i see it its just as offensive as the son of a President running for president (yes he did something but just as Monarch-like) or the wife of a President running for president (long live the queen)

Running vs getting appointed? Yeah......
 

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Am I the only person who finds the prospect of Caroline Kennedy being nominated to fill Clinton's Senate seat offense? Other than having been born into a wealthy family, what has she done to deserve being made a U.S. Senator? It reeks of our having a monarchy or a class of royalty in this country.

Why not choose a hard working Congressman or member of the state legislature who was born into a family of modest means instead?

What did Hillary do for her seat? Played on her name. What had she done before?

Originally posted by: MotF Bane
Ugh, another Kennedy.

That generation of Kennedy's are more down to earth.

She actually was a nice person when I knew her when she went to a Catholic school in Mass.


 

alchemize

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One state we have a democrat governor trying to sell the seat. Another state we have a democrat governor (who took the place of Spitzer lol) who cares nothing about qualifications (if he appoints her).

Nothing to see here, move along! Whispering campaign! Rovian smear tactics!
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: Skitzer
I'm amazed she is even being considered! She has no experience whatsoever.
This is as bad if not worse than the Palin fiasco!
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I beg to differ, Caroline is well educated and is no stranger to democratic politics or political issues. But by her own choice, she has been an intensely private person until recently, even though she has articulately spoken out on various issues over the years.

Comparing Caroline's intellect with Palin's proud to be ignorant is like comparing night and day.

Another big name being mentioned is Mario Cumos's son, but that decision will be up to the Governor of New York, another typical case of American blind justice.

And even if Caroline does not get the appointment for Senate, she may well run for office in the future.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Am I the only person who finds the prospect of Caroline Kennedy being nominated to fill Clinton's Senate seat offense? Other than having been born into a wealthy family, what has she done to deserve being made a U.S. Senator? It reeks of our having a monarchy or a class of royalty in this country.

Why not choose a hard working Congressman or member of the state legislature who was born into a family of modest means instead?

That's fine if you leave out the last part. Being born into a family of modest means does not make a person more qualified to be a senator.
 

Skitzer

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I'm not comparing their intellect. Like I said she has NO experience.
Of course looking back to recent events ...... I guess experience is really no longer a prerequisite.
I just want to go on record as indicating that there are many politicians out there who are much better qualified for the position.
 

Elias824

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I suppose its in their blood to be in politics, and yeah this kinda stuff happens all the time. The only real comparison I can make was hilliary who was first lady and as far as I know didnt do anything else before she got her seat.
 

Skitzer

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Originally posted by: Elias824
I suppose its in their blood to be in politics, and yeah this kinda stuff happens all the time. The only real comparison I can make was hilliary who was first lady and as far as I know didnt do anything else before she got her seat.

Hence the term "on the job training"
 

ProfJohn

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As a Republican... appointing Caroline will just make it that much easier for the Republicans to win that seat in 2010.

For a party that just won the White House and large majorities in both houses of congress the Democrats seem determined to screw it all up.

1. Have corrupt governor try to sell one Senate seat.
2. Have another governor appoint a totally unqualified person to another senate seat.

Now all we need is for the governor of Delaware to appoint Biden's son to his senate seat.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Skitzer
I'm not comparing their intellect. Like I said she has NO experience.
Of course looking back to recent events ...... I guess experience is really no longer a prerequisite.
I just want to go on record as indicating that there are many politicians out there who are much better qualified for the position.

Hillary Clinton, who is vacating he seat, also had never held an elected office before she became a senator. That obviously didn't mean she had no experience.
 

NeoV

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if her last name was Brown, no one would care, but because she's a Kennedy, people are in a tizzy. She's as qualified as roughly half of our current Senators were when they ran for office - and if you can find me 5 Senators that aren't wealthy, I'd be shocked.
 

Skitzer

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Skitzer
I'm not comparing their intellect. Like I said she has NO experience.
Of course looking back to recent events ...... I guess experience is really no longer a prerequisite.
I just want to go on record as indicating that there are many politicians out there who are much better qualified for the position.

Hillary Clinton, who is vacating he seat, also had never held an elected office before she became a senator. That obviously didn't mean she had no experience.

How was that obvious? And what experience did she have?
She had no experience either ..... just name recognition. "On the job training".
Hell lets just elect or put anyone with name recognition into positions of authority.
I think Bozo would make a fine Governor in IL.
 

BoomerD

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As a rule, we elect Senators and Representatives who have zero governmental experience...that's the "citizen government" for ya.

Sounds like those complaining about this are in favor of only having those in government who have been in it their entire lifetimes...

I gotta suspect that if this was a Republican thing...and some well-known daughter of a Republican was being considered for this, you same folks would be all in favor of it...and be attacking the naysayers.
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
I gotta suspect that if this was a Republican thing...and some well-known daughter of a Republican was being considered for this, you same folks would be all in favor of it...and be attacking the naysayers.

Yeah they would. But instead they are "outraged" about any little thing. Boring.
 

DanceMan

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
As a rule, we elect Senators and Representatives who have zero governmental experience...that's the "citizen government" for ya.

Sounds like those complaining about this are in favor of only having those in government who have been in it their entire lifetimes...

I gotta suspect that if this was a Republican thing...and some well-known daughter of a Republican was being considered for this, you same folks would be all in favor of it...and be attacking the naysayers.

Actually, you have the Republican husband (Arnold) of a well-know Democratic wife (Shriver) who ran for office in California. What the hell kind of experience did Arnold have? And it should especially count in his case, because he's the governor of a state that has budgets and issues that most countries don't even have. Bet you didn't hear a peep outta the Pubs then....

 

MikeyLSU

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Originally posted by: DanceMan
Originally posted by: BoomerD
As a rule, we elect Senators and Representatives who have zero governmental experience...that's the "citizen government" for ya.

Sounds like those complaining about this are in favor of only having those in government who have been in it their entire lifetimes...

I gotta suspect that if this was a Republican thing...and some well-known daughter of a Republican was being considered for this, you same folks would be all in favor of it...and be attacking the naysayers.

Actually, you have the Republican husband (Arnold) of a well-know Democratic wife (Shriver) who ran for office in California. What the hell kind of experience did Arnold have? And it should especially count in his case, because he's the governor of a state that has budgets and issues that most countries don't even have. Bet you didn't hear a peer outta the Pubs then....

but he was elected, not appointed. Big difference, if you are going to appoint someone, they should have some political experience. Anyone can run for office, it is up to the people to make sure they are qualified.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
but he was elected, not appointed. Big difference, if you are going to appoint someone, they should have some political experience. Anyone can run for office, it is up to the people to make sure they are qualified.

this is an interesting point. Still, I'm not offended. She's an ivy league educated lawyer with a charitable background and has co-authored 2 constitutional law books. Not an insipid rich girl by any means. Yes, she's in contention solely because of her name. Tons of people are. Bush? Cuomo? Clinton? McCain? Doors opened for them because of their relatives, but there comes a point where the person has to be judged on their own merits. If she sucks we can kick her out in 2010.