Car Tailgates Cyclist - Car Gets Pulled Over

[dmcowen674]

Cyclist should have gotten a ticket too. He was over the speed limit.

 

[FleshLight]

It is? Where? Thats kinda what the sidewalk is for, non-vehicle traffic.


That said, from the video, it looks like the cyclist is in either the middle of the lane and at times on the left side of the lane. If you're going to cycle in the street, common sense says you should be as far to the right as possible.

Many cities have ordinances prohibiting bikes on sidewalks. Also many, if not all, states allow the cyclist to take the right-most lane if there is no safer alternative.

 

[alkemyst]

The car driver wasn't harassing the biker, it was merely drafting for efficiency.

The biker may have finally reached cruising speed with traffic but has different acceleration properties and was still getting in the way of traffic. The biker is stupid and egotistic to believe he can operate his bike in a similar manner to vehicles powered by combustion engines.

There are many backroads or wider main roads available for riding without putting oneself directly into the heat of traffic like that. A wider main road would allow the biker to ride to the side and allow traffic to move around him easier.

I ride and even when I could accelerate that fast, I never rode that stupidly.

Are you fucking retarded?

 

[Bateluer]

No, common sense says ride in the safest way possible. When the lane is a substandard width*, it is safer for the cyclist to take the lane in order to force vehicular traffic to pass on the left (or run the cyclist over).

* Note: substandard width depends on your state

In which case, he should be on the side walk with the other non-motorized traffic. Thats why tax payers paid to have it built in the first place.

Many cities have ordinances prohibiting bikes on sidewalks. Also many, if not all, states allow the cyclist to take the right-most lane if there is no safer alternative.

Granted, I've only lived in three states, but none of them had such idiotic ordinances on the books. Or if they did, LEO recognized them as idiotic and never enforced them.

 

[alkemyst]

Cyclist should have gotten a ticket too. He was over the speed limit.

The guy bumped him at one point, definite road rage incident. He admitted on the video subs that he thought he was getting a ticket.

 

[Ns1]

In which case, he should be on the side walk with the other non-motorized traffic. Thats why tax payers paid to have it built in the first place.

Illegal in many states; not sure how many times this needs to be repeated.

 

[DrPizza]

Exactly, there were at least 3 or 4 people who had to spend 5 seconds of their life making sure it was safe to move their car over by 10 feet. And that's just from the video - there could be dozens of innocent victims who had 5 seconds of their lives impacted by this cyclist.

And, at least 10 people wasted a few seconds of their lives reading your post. I think they're the bigger victims here.

 

[chusteczka]

Speaking of riding stupidly, here's someone who doesn't quite understand the concept of what a road does. The entire idea of getting from point A to point B is lost on him. And, that road wasn't wide enough? It's a lot harder to pass a cyclist when there's one lane - they had 2 lanes.

wider roads do nothing (for the safety of cyclists) since it just increases the speed of the vehicular traffic up to highway speeds

No, common sense says ride in the safest way possible. When the lane is a substandard width*, it is safer for the cyclist to take the lane in order to force vehicular traffic to pass on the left (or run the cyclist over).

Here is the area of that video in Skokie, Illinois. I live a few towns over and am familiar with the area. The biker is riding west to east along Oakton Street, a fairly congested and major thoroughfare. The video starts just over Edens Expy (94) at the intersection of Oakton and Gross Point Road. This is exactly where the street narrows. The video ends right at Skokie Village Hall.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/S...87,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xc25a57c90059e4ea

The road narrows in that area while remaining two lanes in each direction. There is enough traffic congestion in that area to make it difficult for cars to pass a bicycle. A relatively slowly accelerating bicycle, even one as fast as that guy was, will frustrate car drivers unable to keep up with accelerating traffic. A wider lane would allow cars to move around a bicycle easier, which drivers often do in this area in a courteous, thoughtful, and safe manner. Cars easily move around bicycles when the lane is wide enough and the bicyclist moves over but as Ns1 mentioned, there was not enough room for a bike to move to the side and have vehicles go around safely, so the biker needed to take center lane, which is fine.

Except that he shouldn't have been there in the first place. For his own safety.

That area has a few bike paths, one very nice and long path in particular. That area also has parallel side streets and designated bike lanes that could be traversed just as well and much safer for getting from point A to B. Riding a road bike like that is not about getting from point A to B but for exercise.

A bike rider needs to stay out of such traffic if they value their safety. He put himself directly into congested traffic. It is similar to a jogger deciding to jog along a densely packed road with foul air from vehicle exhaust when there is a perfectly good neighborhood right there to safely jog within, out of traffic and with better air quality. The decisions people make regarding their safety are not always the correct ones.

If I was riding that route, I would have crossed the intersection at Gross Point, taken Central Ave south, then taken the first parallel street east, which is Kirk St. Then I would have continued along Galitz, crossed Niles Center Rd to follow Lincoln Ave. Then to continue traveling east parallel to Oakton, I would have taken Babb Ave north to Louise St to its end, then rejoined with Oakton to cross the highway at Skokie Blvd.

Are you fucking retarded?

No, quite the opposite.

 

[DrPizza]

Riding a road bike like that is not about getting from point A to B but for exercise.

Who's to say what his intention was? I used to ride like that to work along a main road, because it was the most direct route - and it was quicker on a bike than it was in a car; it was only a mile away on the main route, hence though I went fast, I didn't get too sweaty. And, where I worked was ON that main route, not on some side route a few blocks north or south.

 

[Slew Foot]

im impressed he could accelerate that fast on that bumpy road. he was passing up cars in the left lane, lol.

f that driver, i would have approved of the cop planting some heroin and blowing out his brains.

 

[Humpy]

Here is the area of that video in Skokie, Illinois. I live a few towns over and am familiar with the area. The biker is riding west to east along Oakton Street, a fairly congested and major thoroughfare. The video starts just over Edens Expy (94) at the intersection of Oakton and Gross Point Road. This is exactly where the street narrows. The video ends right at Skokie Village Hall.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/S...87,16z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0xc25a57c90059e4ea

The road narrows in that area while remaining two lanes in each direction. There is enough traffic congestion in that area to make it difficult for cars to pass a bicycle. A relatively slowly accelerating bicycle, even one as fast as that guy was, will frustrate car drivers unable to keep up with accelerating traffic. A wider lane would allow cars to move around a bicycle easier, which drivers often do in this area in a courteous, thoughtful, and safe manner. Cars easily move around bicycles when the lane is wide enough and the bicyclist moves over but as Ns1 mentioned, there was not enough room for a bike to move to the side and have vehicles go around safely, so the biker needed to take center lane, which is fine.

Except that he shouldn't have been there in the first place. For his own safety.

That area has a few bike paths, one very nice and long path in particular. That area also has parallel side streets and designated bike lanes that could be traversed just as well and much safer for getting from point A to B. Riding a road bike like that is not about getting from point A to B but for exercise.

A bike rider needs to stay out of such traffic if they value their safety. He put himself directly into congested traffic. It is similar to a jogger deciding to jog along a densely packed road with foul air from vehicle exhaust when there is a perfectly good neighborhood right there to safely jog within, out of traffic and with better air quality. The decisions people make regarding their safety are not always the correct ones.

If I was riding that route, I would have crossed the intersection at Gross Point, taken Central Ave south, then taken the first parallel street east, which is Kirk St. Then I would have continued along Galitz, crossed Niles Center Rd to follow Lincoln Ave. Then to continue traveling east parallel to Oakton, I would have taken Babb Ave north to Louise St to its end, then rejoined with Oakton to cross the highway at Skokie Blvd.




No, quite the opposite.

Each one of those words made you seem just a little bit more stupid.

You're all concerned about safety but don't mention much about the a-hole tailgater?

 

[chusteczka]

Who's to say what his intention was? I used to ride like that to work along a main road, because it was the most direct route - and it was quicker on a bike than it was in a car; it was only a mile away on the main route, hence though I went fast, I didn't get too sweaty. And, where I worked was ON that main route, not on some side route a few blocks north or south.

It is understandable you and I will disagree on this point because we each live in much differently populated areas with different driving habits and a differently planned street system. You are lucky to live in the rural area you do for exactly the reasons we see this situation differently.

Each one of those words made you seem just a little bit more stupid.

You're all concerned about safety but don't mention much about the a-hole tailgater?

To be surprised of the a-hole tailgater, frustrated at not being able to get around a relatively slowly accelerating vehicle in near city traffic is the stupid position. Such a situation is known that it will occur each day, without question. A smart person would realize it will happen no matter how fast he is finally able to get the bike moving and to plan the ride appropriately to prevent it from happening in the first place.


Yes, the biker did a great job of getting up to speed and keeping with the flow of traffic but the drivers behind him were ticked off before he ever reached 20mph. Automatic transmissions provide quick acceleration. Anything that gets in the way of that quick acceleration to keep up with the car next to them is going to be in the way.

 

[n7]

Heartwarming to see.

 

[Schmide]

Dude chusteczka if you can't figure out how to merge around a bike, move to the country. What a sense of entitlement.

 

[skyking]

I have a different takeaway from the video.
Any time a cop is doing other than just writing speeding tickets and actually looking for dangerous driving, I am pleased.
You can't write too many tickets for tailgating, IMO. Pisses me off more than anything.

 

[Humpy]

To be surprised of the a-hole tailgater, frustrated at not being able to get around a relatively slowly accelerating vehicle in near city traffic is the stupid position. Such a situation is known that it will occur each day, without question. A smart person would realize it will happen no matter how fast he is finally able to get the bike moving and to plan the ride appropriately to prevent it from happening in the first place.


Yes, the biker did a great job of getting up to speed and keeping with the flow of traffic but the drivers behind him were ticked off before he ever reached 20mph. Automatic transmissions provide quick acceleration. Anything that gets in the way of that quick acceleration to keep up with the car next to them is going to be in the way.

No one is surprised about the a-hole tailgater. Don't be an a-hole. That's the message here.

And no need to ramble on with phony concern about the safety of cyclists when what you really want to do is blame them ticking off angry drivers who are fucking frustrated that something is in the way.

 

[chusteczka]

Dude chusteczka if you can't figure out how to merge around a bike, move to the country. What a sense of entitlement.

But wait. That's exactly the point. The cars can't merge around the biker because he is in the way. In Chicago you either keep up with the flow of traffic or you get off the road. You don't ever get in the way. That is when short tempers flare up, people act irrationally, and accidents happen.

I was once a biker of that caliber and I understand the desire to mix with traffic but it is unsafe. A prudent rider would find a different route.

I recently read an appropriate passage from the Game of Thrones books.

Game of Thrones: A Storm of Swords (book 3)
Brown Ben (page 781)
"There are old warriors and bold warriors, but no old bold warriors."

No one is surprised about the a-hole tailgater. Don't be an a-hole. That's the message here.

And no need to ramble on with phony concern about the safety of cyclists when what you really want to do is blame them ticking off angry drivers who are fucking frustrated that something is in the way.

My concern is that of a cyclist who understands the danger on such a road and would not have put himself in such a precarious situation to begin with.

 

[SSSnail]

What I see from the video:

-Cars driving on left lane, cyclist in right lane.

-CRV was trying to pass. Cyclist sped up (classic passive-aggressive asshole move).

-CRV got cock blocked started raging, started tailgating (another classic passive-aggressive asshole move).

-The cyclist seized the opportunity to show the world that cyclists are angels.

/barf.

 

[NoTine42]

I don't mind cycles on the road so long as they don't pick and choose which rules they want to follow. That's where you get the hate.

Yep, on my commute, a cross-road is closed as the road was torn out to be expanded.
Do bicyclists follow the detour signs? No, they go around the road closed signs and ride on the dirt. I don't see guys in 4x4 trucks doing that.

 

[BUTCH1]

Speed limits are for stupid people. People that aren't stupid can figure out how fast they can go while remaining safe. Stupid people cannot, so the government has to put up signs telling them "this is the most your tiny brain can handle." Same thing with "No turn on red" signs.

Your missing the point, he wasn't holding up traffic and the tailgater had another lane he could go to instead of driving like a self-centered asshole.

 

[SSSnail]

Your missing the point, he wasn't holding up traffic and the tailgater had another lane he could go to instead of driving like a self-centered asshole.

Actually, he kinda did. There were two lanes, and both were occupied. The CRV had an opportunity to pass at the beginning of the video, but as I pointed out in my earlier post, the cyclist blocked it by speeding up.

 

[Schmide]

But wait. That's exactly the point. The cars can't merge around the biker because he is in the way.

Don't strawman me. FU. My point was it's freaking easy to pass a bike especially on a 2 lane road.

You must be way incompetent, Velcro shoes rule huh.

 

[BUTCH1]

What I see from the video:

-Cars driving on left lane, cyclist in right lane.

-CRV was trying to pass. Cyclist sped up (classic passive-aggressive asshole move).

-CRV got cock blocked started raging, started tailgating (another classic passive-aggressive asshole move).

-The cyclist seized the opportunity to show the world that cyclists are angels.

/barf.

Why should the cyclist not exceed 15 MPH so he can be more readily passed?, fucking self-important,-self-centered asswipes driving an SUV, go figure..

 

[SSSnail]

Why should the cyclist not exceed 15 MPH so he can be more readily passed?, fucking self-important,-self-centered asswipes driving an SUV, go figure..

Actually, the cyclist exceeded the speed limit in trying to cock block, he got up to 32 MPH. Thanks for playing.

 

[BUTCH1]

Actually, he kinda did. There were two lanes, and both were occupied. The CRV had an opportunity to pass at the beginning of the video, but as I pointed out in my earlier post, the cyclist blocked it by speeding up.

HE HAS A RIGHT TO THE ROAD.... he is under NO obligation to operate his bike they way someone else wants him to, plus he wasn't speeding up to "block" the CRV he was trying not to get killed!, Cop saw it exactly this way and wrote the asshole a ticket, awesome!