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Car Stereo Help

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TechBoyJK

Lifer
Ok, here is my setup

Eclipse CD player
Focal 2.1 Components
Infinity Perfect 2-way 6x9's
MTX Thunder 300 Watt Amp
Rockford P3 10's sub

i blew one of the focal tweeters... i actually think weather and rain got to the tweeter (as it is in a pod on my door by the window).. either way, i only have one good tweet, and I really dont have the cash to pay $120+ for a new tweeter.. So what i did initially, was disconnect the other tweeter, which i thought actually balanced out the sound more.... well, im thinking, why can't i bridge the single tweeter from the two tweeter outputs on the focal crossovers? the components came with inline crossovers, the little modules that have single line level inputs and two outputs, one for teh mid bass and one for the tweet.. if i bridge it to a higher impedance, it wont cause anymore stress on the deck and i can just place the single tweeter in the center of my dash, where i have a really good open spot for it...

good idea or no?

im probably going to try it soon unless someone gives a red flag... i just got done detailing my car (im letting it air out now) and i want to try this before i move onto another chore...
 
well, im thinking, why can't i bridge the single tweeter from the two tweeter outputs on the focal crossover? if i bridge it to a higher impedance, it wont cause anymore stress on the deck and i can just place the single tweeter in the center of my dash, where i have a really good open spot for it...

good idea or no?
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Bad idea, that's gonna sound like crap IMO.
 
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
well, im thinking, why can't i bridge the single tweeter from the two tweeter outputs on the focal crossover? if i bridge it to a higher impedance, it wont cause anymore stress on the deck and i can just place the single tweeter in the center of my dash, where i have a really good open spot for it...

good idea or no?
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Bad idea, that's gonna sound like crap IMO.
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sound like crap, do you think there will be a degredation in signal quality? or both channels coming through a single tweet? seems kinda like a center channel to me.... imho, i get enough high end from the tweets on my infinitys...
 
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Originally posted by: Zim Hosein
well, im thinking, why can't i bridge the single tweeter from the two tweeter outputs on the focal crossover? if i bridge it to a higher impedance, it wont cause anymore stress on the deck and i can just place the single tweeter in the center of my dash, where i have a really good open spot for it...

good idea or no?
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Bad idea, that's gonna sound like crap IMO.
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sound like crap, do you think there will be a degredation in signal quality? or both channels coming through a single tweet? seems kinda like a center channel to me.... imho, i get enough high end from the tweets on my infinitys...
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Having both highs which should be either right or left coming through a single center tweeter isn't going to sound correct.
 
Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
how is that any different though than bridging a sub? thats both channels fed into a single output...
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Low frequencies sounds are not that directional compared to high frequencies 🙂
 
not to hijack the thread, but why do ppl even bother with tweeters? I use 2 infinity kappas for my front speakers, and I use a high pass on them, and my rear speakers as well. My highs sound fine, and honestly it doesn't sound any different than people I know who have tweeters....
 
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
not to hijack the thread, but why do ppl even bother with tweeters? I use 2 infinity kappas for my front speakers, and I use a high pass on them, and my rear speakers as well. My highs sound fine, and honestly it doesn't sound any different than people I know who have tweeters....
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seperate tweeters for imaging.... which i guess is why these guys are saying its not good to bridge a tweeter....
 
Originally posted by: Accipiter22
not to hijack the thread, but why do ppl even bother with tweeters? I use 2 infinity kappas for my front speakers, and I use a high pass on them, and my rear speakers as well. My highs sound fine, and honestly it doesn't sound any different than people I know who have tweeters....
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If you have the setup done correctly, seperate tweeters will give you better sound quality than 2ways, 3ways, 4ways and the like. The placement of all speakers (including subs and tweeters) will have an affect on the sound quality in your vehicle.
 
It sounds pretty ghetto to me... Do it right, or don't do it at all...

It sounds like he has a 4-speaker setup, in which case you really need to have component tweeters for imaging. I've never had a problem, as I've always owned cars with dash speakers. Right now my kappa 4x6's sound great on my dash without needing separate tweeters.
 
Originally posted by: ThaPerculator
It sounds pretty ghetto to me... Do it right, or don't do it at all...

It sounds like he has a 4-speaker setup, in which case you really need to have component tweeters for imaging. I've never had a problem, as I've always owned cars with dash speakers. Right now my kappa 4x6's sound great on my dash without needing separate tweeters.
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yea, well i blew the tweet a while ago, and have been "ghetting" by with the other good tweet disconnected for balance reasons... the system as a whole actually sounds more balanced, from bass to highs, with the tweet disconnected, but i was thinking a little bit more high end filler would be nice, which is where i drew the conclusion that if had a mono tweet in the center, at high imdedance to lower the drawn power, it might do exactly what im thinking my system needs..... but these guys are making it sound like ill have distortion or a whacked out signal if i do that.... i might try it and see how it sounds.... its just a matter of reconnecting a few easy to reach wires..
 
The main problem you are going to have is on cd's that use a lot of 'spatial stereo' imaging... Off the top of my head, throw on a rage cd and you'll notice that the way it's mixed has guitars/vocals coming off primarily different sides of the mix.

If you have a center-mounted tweeter that is only wired to one channel of the mix (and not in TRUE mono) it will make the imaging sound rather retarded. Sounds that are supposed to be from the left sound stage only will shift over to the center, etc... It doesn't sound like much, but if you are bothering with upgrading your sound system in the first place it is hopefully because you have an appreciation for music.

Honestly, just disconnect the tweeter until you get enough cash to get a new pair. Or, call the manufacturer and hope its under 'warranty' since it 'magically blew out', etc. etc.

 
Originally posted by: ThaPerculator
The main problem you are going to have is on cd's that use a lot of 'spatial stereo' imaging... Off the top of my head, throw on a rage cd and you'll notice that the way it's mixed has guitars/vocals coming off primarily different sides of the mix.

If you have a center-mounted tweeter that is only wired to one channel of the mix (and not in TRUE mono) it will make the imaging sound rather retarded. Sounds that are supposed to be from the left sound stage only will shift over to the center, etc... It doesn't sound like much, but if you are bothering with upgrading your sound system in the first place it is hopefully because you have an appreciation for music.

Honestly, just disconnect the tweeter until you get enough cash to get a new pair. Or, call the manufacturer and hope its under 'warranty' since it 'magically blew out', etc. etc.
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I'll have the free cash to buy another tweet in about 3 months... for the past 4 months, i just disconnected the remaining working tweeter, and what i found was that it actually created a more balanced sound, because i thought that the tweets, when i first bought them, were kinda louder than the rest of the system... basically, i had a good sub and good tweet range, but the mids were lacking.. by disconnecting the tweets, it brought the highs down and made the mid bass more noticable...

i found a spot in the center of my dash, up by the window, that i fed speaker wire down and placed my single tweet in the center... being that i bridged it so that the impedance would be higher, the tweet isnt getting as much power, and having it in the center, at a low volume, really seems to fill out the front stage... the dyamics of the stereo image is still very defined, because the tweets in my 6x9's are still powerful... and much louder than the single tweet in comparison..

ill post a pic in a minute... haha ghetto i know, but i think it sounds cleaner with the single tweet in the center... i havent noticed any distortion either.. (well it is a focal tweet)... l
 
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