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Car plows into crowd in Germany

UglyCasanova

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-crash/several-dead-after-vehicle-hits-group-of-people-in-germany-police-idUSKBN1HE0IQ

BERLIN (Reuters) - A vehicle drove into a group of people in the western German city of Muenster on Saturday, killing several of them and probably the driver, police said.

“There are several dead, probably including the suspect,” a police spokeswoman said.

A security source added: “The scenario is such that an attack cannot be ruled out.”

Mass-selling daily Bild reported in its online edition that three people had died in the incident. It showed pictures of where police had cordoned off an area of the city.

The incident evoked memories of a December 2016 truck attack in Berlin that killed 12 people.

Anis Amri, a failed Tunisian asylum seeker with Islamist links, hijacked a truck on Dec. 19, 2016, killed the driver and then ploughed it into a crowded marketplace, killing 11 more people and injuring dozens of others.


Yikes. If this does turn out to be another attack via vehicle what (if anything) should be the appropriate response?
 

FIVR

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Cars crash all the time. It says "several" but doesn't give a number... so it could be as low as 3 dead.

How does 3 people dying in a car crash in Germany warrant international news coverage? Could it be that OP and article authors are assuming something about the demographics of the driver? Do they have an agenda?
 

GagHalfrunt

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Cars crash all the time. It says "several" but doesn't give a number... so it could be as low as 3 dead.

How does 3 people dying in a car crash in Germany warrant international news coverage? Could it be that OP and article authors are assuming something about the demographics of the driver? Do they have an agenda?
Just like clockwork, FIVR scuttles out from behind the floorboards to attack anyone who might see a connection between the attack profile, terror attacks in Europe and the demographics of those attackers. Which is funny because the only way for someone to rush to such conclusions is to themselves see a connection between the attack profile, terror attacks in Europe and the demographics of those attackers.
 
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pmv

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Cars crash all the time. It says "several" but doesn't give a number... so it could be as low as 3 dead.

How does 3 people dying in a car crash in Germany warrant international news coverage? Could it be that OP and article authors are assuming something about the demographics of the driver? Do they have an agenda?
Could be either. As in the case here not long ago, when a case that initially looked like a terror-attack turned out to be just another case of lousy driving.
Motorists, terrorists - it's sometimes hard to tell them apart. I know which I feel most threatened by on a day-to-day basis.
 

FIVR

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Well at least he didn't use his gun. He would've killed 10x as many people if he had been smart enough to use that pistol instead of a vehicle.


This is just one more example of how gun control can help mitigate the damage of terrorist attacks. This terrorist was so unfamiliar with guns that he didn't feel confident enough to use one in his attack. Instead, he used a vehicle and killed a very small number of people.

If this were the US this guy would've had training and an AR-15 and there'd be dozens dead.
 

Ichinisan

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Well at least he didn't use his gun. He would've killed 10x as many people if he had been smart enough to use that pistol instead of a vehicle.


This is just one more example of how gun control can help mitigate the damage of terrorist attacks. This terrorist was so unfamiliar with guns that he didn't feel confident enough to use one in his attack. Instead, he used a vehicle and killed a very small number of people.
You really think mass murderers are effective with pistols?

A (presumed) successful vehicular attack is "one more example of how gun control can help mitigate the damage of terrorist attacks?"

Unbelievable.
 

UglyCasanova

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You really think mass murderers are effective with pistols?

A (presumed) successful vehicular attack is "one more example of how gun control can help mitigate the damage of terrorist attacks?"

Unbelievable.

He’s trolling I wouldn’t feed it
 

FIVR

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Now that we know it was a german citizen, what does OP have to say about this? Do we need more stringent surveillance of people born in the US? Perhaps the FBI should be investigating families who are not recent immigrants or children of immigrants, since clearly it is the people who have been here the longest who are the most likely to commit terrorist acts. That's what this case has shown us.


I am quite suspicious of the daughters of the american revolution. That is probably a group comprised of people who very likely could be terrorists. Their relatives have been here forever, they aren't immigrants (not recent, anyway). How can we trust the DAR?
 

FIVR

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Just like clockwork, FIVR scuttles out from behind the floorboards to attack anyone who might see a connection between the attack profile, terror attacks in Europe and the demographics of those attackers. Which is funny because the only way for someone to rush to such conclusions is to themselves see a connection between the attack profile, terror attacks in Europe and the demographics of those attackers.
LOL you're so fucking stupid. How upset are you right now that you don't have any muslims to hate on?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/germany-van-crash-attack-munster-terrorism-psychological-problems-latest-a8294141.html
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Cars crash all the time. It says "several" but doesn't give a number... so it could be as low as 3 dead.

How does 3 people dying in a car crash in Germany warrant international news coverage? Could it be that OP and article authors are assuming something about the demographics of the driver? Do they have an agenda?

The OP is obviously part of the New World Alt-Right order of course. That's how he managed to pull this off. Considering the past regarding how terrorism was done, it is news whether you like it or not. No one said it's terrorism but the idea of NOT covering this is idiotic to be charitable.
 

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It's tragic and heartrending no matter who the perpetrator is, but the sad part is knowing that many people (including a few on this forum) were warming up their "ban all Muslim immigration" diatribes on the assumption that it had to be some recently-arrived Islamic extremist.

The boring answer: so long as we need cars piloted by humans, there's always the chance of something like this happening. The best you could likely do (short of mandating self-driving cars) would likely be to stage police along the more vulnerable routes so that an attacker can be taken down before they do too much damage.
 

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