Demon-Xanth
Lifer
Okay, I'm giving up posting in ANY car debate threads. The reason is that people don't seem to understand:
1: What's important to you is NOT important to me
2: Power costs money, do NOT try to compare a $60,000 car to a $15,000 car without taking price into account.
3: HP/L is meaningless. It's about as important as ICs per DIMM.
4: Although you can win most debates by limiting the scope so tight that it only allows you to win, it makes your argument pointless.
5: Just because one guy got an engine to make 4 times the amount of horsepower with a handful of bolt ons and have it live doesn't mean they all can. Now, if that one guy did it to 20 cars, that's a different story.
6: Unless you can order it from the factory, it's not stock. SLP, SVT, AMG, M cars can be considered stock. Stuff like Roush, and dealer installed TRD parts are not.
7: Fuel injection is well over 50 years old. OHCs are over 100 years old. DOHC is over 80 years old. Superchargers are over 80 years old. Turbos are over 30 years old. They are not "high tech".
8: "Advanced" and "new" don't always mean better. When you need a sledge hammer, you need a sledge hammer, not a dremel tool.
9: Street cars have license plates with registration tags. Race cars do not.
10: Don't compare racecars under the argument of "manufacturer A is better than B". Most manufacturers pump more money into one series than another.
Feel free to flame me, I'm not going to respond to this thread.
1: What's important to you is NOT important to me
2: Power costs money, do NOT try to compare a $60,000 car to a $15,000 car without taking price into account.
3: HP/L is meaningless. It's about as important as ICs per DIMM.
4: Although you can win most debates by limiting the scope so tight that it only allows you to win, it makes your argument pointless.
5: Just because one guy got an engine to make 4 times the amount of horsepower with a handful of bolt ons and have it live doesn't mean they all can. Now, if that one guy did it to 20 cars, that's a different story.
6: Unless you can order it from the factory, it's not stock. SLP, SVT, AMG, M cars can be considered stock. Stuff like Roush, and dealer installed TRD parts are not.
7: Fuel injection is well over 50 years old. OHCs are over 100 years old. DOHC is over 80 years old. Superchargers are over 80 years old. Turbos are over 30 years old. They are not "high tech".
8: "Advanced" and "new" don't always mean better. When you need a sledge hammer, you need a sledge hammer, not a dremel tool.
9: Street cars have license plates with registration tags. Race cars do not.
10: Don't compare racecars under the argument of "manufacturer A is better than B". Most manufacturers pump more money into one series than another.
Feel free to flame me, I'm not going to respond to this thread.