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Car buying issue - who's right?

Black88GTA

Diamond Member
Some of you may know that I recently purchased a new (to me) car. Here's a pic. I was supposed to pic it up tomorrow, but now the seller (private owner) is refusing to release the car! :|

I got a loan from my bank to purchase the vehicle. However, there was still a lien on it, which would have to be paid off before the bank would release the title. OK, fair enough. I asked my bank how this is normally done, they said to have them make the loan disbursement check out to myself, the seller, and the seller's bank. So I did this. I signed the check and overnighted it to the seller, who then sent it to his bank to pay off the remainder of the loan on the car. This was completed the 14th of August. So at this point, the check has cleared already - there is no way I could touch the funds or stop payment on the check even if I wanted to. The bank is saying that the car title should arrive any day now.

However, the seller's bank then informed him that it would be up to a month before the overpayment check was sent back to him (WTF, it takes a fvcking month to subtract remaining loan amount from check amount and cut a check for the difference?) but anyways, he is now refusing to give me the damn car until he gets the check in his hands. Nevermind that I am completely out of the picture as far as the money is concerned at this point - I can't TOUCH it. I should note that the seller wanted me to make the check out to him only, and he'd take care of paying off the loan and getting the title for me. Gee thanks, but uhh, I'd rather not give a $$,$$$ check free-and-clear to a complete stranger in a neighboring state and trust him to take care of it. :roll:

I'm fvcking pissed because I was planning on driving home for Labor Day weekend in it, and my current car won't make it. I've already canceled my trip home twice for various reasons, and now it looks like I'll have to cancel it yet again.

So who is right? Me (I think I should be able to pick it up now, obviously) or him? Am I being unreasonable wanting to pick up right now? What do you guys think?
 
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You should have gotten the 850 with the 12 cyclinder puppy 😉

Thought about it...decided against it because I'd be scared to death of having something go wrong with the V12. 😱 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ARM$$$$$$$$$LEG$$$$$LEFT NUT$$$$$$$FIRST BORN CHILD$$$$$...

The V8 is a lot more common, better parts availability, lower cost, etc.
 
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.
 
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?
 
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?

Damn straight. See: Right above selling price.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0989.JPG
 
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?

Damn straight.

Not all of us are so lucky. In fact the majority of people have to finance. Telling the OP that the situation is his fault because of it is dumb.

Damn straight. See: Right above selling price.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0989.JPG
:cookie:

I bought my '99 Ranger with cash a few years ago also. Your point is? This is a much more expensive car we're talking about.
 
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
This car isn't located in Nigeria is it?:beer:

You're more trusting/laid back than me. Happy motoring!

Close....New Jersey 😉
I didn't like the idea either, but having never financed anything before, I didn't really know all of the details. In retrospect, I should have had the bank cut two checks - one for the balance of the loan, made out to the seller's bank, and one to deliver to the seller when I picked the car up. I wasn't sure if they would do that or not.

I do have the seller's home address, full name, and phone #.

Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I hate financing anything, but I'm kind of tired of driving beaters that need constant care to keep running. I don't have a place to work on my cars like I used to, so I can't tend to them when they need it. My current car is dying (will need a transmission soon) as well as an intake manifold gasket and both front axles replaced. So my choices were to buy another beater with cash, or finance something nicer. I didn't have the time to save up enough to get it, so I had to finance.

The last thing I expected was the damn bank taking a month to process a bank-certified check. I can't imagine what the fvck takes so long??
 
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?

Damn straight.

Not all of us are so lucky. In fact the majority of people have to finance. Telling the OP that the situation is his fault because of it is dumb.

I think getting in a huff about this is dumb because he's blaming the seller's for his lienholder screwing him over.

His beef is with whoever's holding the note, not the seller.
 
Originally posted by: Black88GTA
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
This car isn't located in Nigeria is it?:beer:

You're more trusting/laid back than me. Happy motoring!

Close....New Jersey 😉
I didn't like the idea either, but having never financed anything before, I didn't really know all of the details. In retrospect, I should have had the bank cut two checks - one for the balance of the loan, made out to the seller's bank, and one to deliver to the seller when I picked the car up. I wasn't sure if they would do that or not.

I do have the seller's home address, full name, and phone #.

Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I hate financing anything, but I'm kind of tired of driving beaters that need constant care to keep running. I don't have a place to work on my cars like I used to, so I can't tend to them when they need it. My current car is dying (will need a transmission soon) as well as an intake manifold gasket and both front axles replaced. So my choices were to buy another beater with cash, or finance something nicer. I didn't have the time to save up enough to get it, so I had to finance.

The last thing I expected was the damn bank taking a month to process a bank-certified check. I can't imagine what the fvck takes so long??

Just because a bank writes a check does not mean it is a certified check.

Washington Mutual wrote my family a check from their trust account, which we took into a branch and they REFUSED TO CASH IT because it was not a certified WAMU check and because they wrote it on their Wells Fargo account across the country.

Banks are all about the float. The longer they hold money, the more they make.
 
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?

Damn straight. See: Right above selling price.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0989.JPG

$5k car doesn't count.
 
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?

Damn straight.

Not all of us are so lucky. In fact the majority of people have to finance. Telling the OP that the situation is his fault because of it is dumb.

I think getting in a huff about this is dumb because he's blaming the seller's lienholder for screwing him over.

His beef is with whoever's holding the note, not the seller.

Why not just say that to begin with instead of going on a mini rant about people financing cars?
 
Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?

Damn straight. See: Right above selling price.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0989.JPG

$5k car doesn't count.

No problem.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0970.JPG
 
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?

Damn straight. See: Right above selling price.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0989.JPG

$5k car doesn't count.

No problem.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0970.JPG

So um...mind loaning me some money? I swear I'll pay it back.
 
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?

Damn straight. See: Right above selling price.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0989.JPG

$5k car doesn't count.

No problem.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0970.JPG

Strokin' the e-peen?
 
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: Black88GTA
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
This car isn't located in Nigeria is it?:beer:

You're more trusting/laid back than me. Happy motoring!

Close....New Jersey 😉
I didn't like the idea either, but having never financed anything before, I didn't really know all of the details. In retrospect, I should have had the bank cut two checks - one for the balance of the loan, made out to the seller's bank, and one to deliver to the seller when I picked the car up. I wasn't sure if they would do that or not.

I do have the seller's home address, full name, and phone #.

Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I hate financing anything, but I'm kind of tired of driving beaters that need constant care to keep running. I don't have a place to work on my cars like I used to, so I can't tend to them when they need it. My current car is dying (will need a transmission soon) as well as an intake manifold gasket and both front axles replaced. So my choices were to buy another beater with cash, or finance something nicer. I didn't have the time to save up enough to get it, so I had to finance.

The last thing I expected was the damn bank taking a month to process a bank-certified check. I can't imagine what the fvck takes so long??

Just because a bank writes a check does not mean it is a certified check.

Washington Mutual wrote my family a check from their trust account, which we took into a branch and they REFUSED TO CASH IT because it was not a certified WAMU check and because they wrote it on their Wells Fargo account across the country.

Banks are all about the float. The longer they hold money, the more they make.

I know that...I contacted the bank, and they assured me that it was certified. My understanding was that since it is disbursement of a loan (and not coming from an account) then it is guaranteed by the bank. At least, that's what I got out of the phone conversation with the bank CSR. Seemed to make sense to me...?
 
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?

Damn straight. See: Right above selling price.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0989.JPG

$5k car doesn't count.

No problem.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0970.JPG

So the location of that bed, that's in your parents house, right? Loser.
 
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Originally posted by: PAB
Originally posted by: MrPickins
Originally posted by: PAB
Its both of your faults for financing. This is what happens when people become too dependent on banks. The finance department bends you over for a month and you can take it with a sandpaper condom or not make the deal.

I suppose you pay for all of your cars with cash?

Damn straight. See: Right above selling price.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0989.JPG

$5k car doesn't count.

No problem.

http://pics.apartment808.com/users/dukeofurl/IMG_0970.JPG


What are you, a drug dealer? Hehe
 
Hmmmm... contact your lender for advice. Personally, I'd tend to believe that it's your property now. It's his problem to deal with his bank and getting the money back from them, not your problem. He's trying to punish you for the actions of his own bank.
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Hmmmm... contact your lender for advice. Personally, I'd tend to believe that it's your property now. It's his problem to deal with his bank and getting the money back from them, not your problem. He's trying to punish you for the actions of his own bank.

Those are my thoughts too. From his emails and such, I get the feeling that he's a little pissed that I included his bank on the check, and didn't write it straight to him. So now he's "punishing" me for doing it that way.

I've been on the phone with my bank regarding the issue - they said that it is completely out of their hands, and the issue lies with his bank. So I called his bank to try to get them to hurry it up...that was a waste of time. They were of absolutely no help.
 
Originally posted by: JonTheBaller
Where is the present location of the title for the car?

In the mail, according to the bank. The seller should have it in his hands early next week, if he doesn't have it already.
 
PAB can still post?

good luck. buying used cars is a PITA, especially when you deal w/ the ones that are "owned" by the banks still.
 
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